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  • #31
    Dave,
    Like Phillip said, nice mistake! The new paint job looks real good.
    Nice use of the blast cabinet. I built my own out of a 55 gallon drum when I was rebuilding a car.
    They do come in handy. Another type of abrasive you can use is baking soda, it will work great on plastic.

    Scott

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    • #32
      Hi guys!
      I've been down with a sneaky little bug for about a week.
      I got 2 of the jabs and a flu shot and it got through all of that.
      Today is the best I have felt in that time and was able to get some shop time in.
      I'm out on the patio now because the weather guessers got it right!
      73 lovely degrees........and windy! The tree branches are really dancing when it it's gusting.
      I don't care...it's been a long time coming for my area.


      Phillip Mike Larry Jerry Ted Coaltrain and Scott, thanks for looking in I appreciate the comments.

      Scott I tried that with the baking soda a long time ago with a cheap airbrush and the needle backed out.
      Never had much luck with it. I'm SURE it was me.

      Coaltrain, comments either way are always appreciated .

      I love um but I'm no expert on Shays.
      I used a print drawing of Diamond and Cal-dor #4 to try and get the look right.

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      It does go down by the cylinders, but I don't see a connection. I imagine it's not a builders print but then I don't have 3 cylinders either.

      Lets call this a Monty Python style bash.


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      Here's where I stand.
      Everything from the cab forward is attached except the air tank.
      I have misplaced my decals since moving everything downstairs and have looked everywhere. DOH!
      I reordered 3D rivet decals which I need for the tank bands.
      Unfortunately, my Tin Can Bay set was in the same manila envelope with the other sheet.
      I'm going to type some up and send for new ones, I wont need those for a little while yet.
      On a positive note, while searching for them I found the little sand tanks that go on the rear.
      I swear, lately I feel lucky to find my arse some days.




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      One of the things I need to do yet is build a toolbox to hide that plug for the led headlight.
      Lots more fun to be had!

      Cheers everyone!
      Dave









      Last edited by Dave_D; 05-10-2022, 05:17 PM.
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      • #33
        Dave,

        Looking great! Love all the plumbing and other details! Colors look good as well.

        Scott

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        • #34
          Dave great job so far. Like the rust detail coming down the smokestack onto the boiler; looks
          quite natural.
          Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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          • #35
            Dave' that is one beautiful paint job! Mike

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            • #36
              Gets better with every post. Great job Dave.

              By the way wasn't that Tin Can Bay a Sawmill? Is that still around waiting for completion??
              Jerry



              "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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              • #37
                That looks great!

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                • #38
                  Thanks for the comments guys.

                  Jerry, yeah it's around here.....somewhere. lol


                  I had a bit of a struggle the last few days.
                  I blasted the rear water tank/fuel bunker after the gloss incident and repainted it.
                  Then I overdid the sand colored over spray, back to the blaster.
                  Then I repainted and added the TCB and rivet decals. Engineers side, perfect, The fireman's side clouded
                  after the dull cote was applied, back to the blaster.
                  This last time I got it to the same point as the last time, fireman's side perfect, engineers side, 3 small spots.
                  I'm going to end this crazy cycle here.


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                  I have a white metal casting of a siphon hose that hides those spots pretty well.
                  I'll paint that up and hang it there. The only thing I can think of is my decal sheet is pretty old maybe that has something to do with it.


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                  That's where I'm at.

                  More to do, steps, grabs, handles for the fill covers, front number plate, crew are just a few things that come to mind plus a few more detail bits.
                  DCC/Sound has been installed and works great. I'm in the home stretch I think!

                  Cheers, Dave
                  Last edited by Dave_D; 05-17-2022, 04:50 PM.
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                  • Rick
                    Rick commented
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                    Dave, your pictures don't show

                  • Rick
                    Rick commented
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                    Dave, your pictures don't show.

                  • Dave_D
                    Dave_D commented
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                    That was odd. I hit edit and there they were. I hit save and boom gone. lol
                    I deleted them and reloaded.

                • #39
                  Look great Dave!
                  Philip

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                  • #40
                    Dave,
                    Great little locomotive! Details and paint are looking good. You hardly notice the 3 spots.

                    Scott

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                    • #41
                      The reason that drawing of the piping looks like it is one pipe that runs from the dome to the smoke box is because the cylinder block in one casting. Inside the casting are passages, just like a car engine block has piston holes and water passages that are separate from each other. The cylinders each have a valve on them that moves with the stroke and tells the cylinder to take in live steam from the dome, or it blocks off the live steam and sends the used steam (condensate) down the exhaust pipe. The exhaust steam has to enter the smokebox in the very center, right under the exhaust stack because there is a nozzle that "shoots" the used steam up into the smoke stack, and the "shooting" causes a low pressure area around the stack that draws the firebox gasses through the flues and up the stack. Sometimes the exhaust steam pipe (it runs down the side of the boiler) enters the side of the smokebox and has an internal pipe (the drop pipe) that goes down the the center of the smoke box and then turns up, otherwise you the external exhaust pipe will turn on the outside of the boiler and go down and under the smokebox were it enters the bottom center.

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                      if you look at a superheated shay, like some on the Westside Lumber, you will have two external pipes, which both are attached to the smokebox and not to the steam dome. A superheated shay has a lot of little steam pipes that run through the flues and they use exhaust gasses to heat the steam to a higher temp (making more pressure). the steam is collected in the dome and has an internal pipe that branches off to all the little pipes, which makes a loop that ends at the front of the boiler and is recollected to a pipe. The collection pipe exits the side of the smokebox (up high) and runs back to the cylinder block to be sent to the cylinders, same as before, and the used steam runs back to the smoke box in a separate pipe that is down lower so it drains toward the front and can "shoot" the exhaust steam up through the center bottom of the smokebox and up through the stack. it is sometimes hard to see the lower pipe because it can be behind air tanks and running boards.

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                      • #42
                        Outstanding job Dave!
                        Jerry



                        "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                        • #43
                          Jeff a great lesson on how that all works.
                          Jerry



                          "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                          • #44
                            Dave looks good to me; great job as usual.
                            Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                            • #45
                              Thanks Jerry and Larry.


                              OK, I get it Jeff,

                              I now know a lot more about Shays, maybe more than I wanted to.

                              Thanks for taking the time.

                              Let it never be said that I cant take criticism and learn or don't care about getting it right, (at least close to looking right anyway.)








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                              Now granted I didn't attach them to the cylinders but then I don't need to, its electric not live steam.

                              OK I'm putting the pipes behind me and focusing on other details.
                              I'm hoping to tie this up soon.


                              Cheers,

                              Dave




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                              • TRAINS1941
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                                Well if you want to do it live steam! I'd be more than happy to take the electric one off your hands!!
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