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  • #16
    Rich, nice to see you back at your modelling bench again! I've always liked this particular FSM kit, but have never been able to pick one up for a good price.
    So I'll just have to enjoy it through your efforts.

    Greg

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    • #17
      Rich,

      One thing that irritates me about that kit is where I've pointed the yellow and green arrows to. There is no plausible way those heavy stone blocks would stay up there. At least move the beam out under those blocks to make it a bit more plausible. This coming from the engineering department.

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      Bernd
      New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds

      Main thread to all that's happening on the NY,V & N Rwy. The New York, Vermont -and- Northern Rwy. - Railroad Line Forums (railroad-line.com)

      New York, Vermont -and- Northern Rwy HOn30 Quarry Line https://railroad-line.com/node/31167

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      • Philip
        Philip commented
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        Only with a bond beam,rebar, and concrete filled.

    • #18
      Looking forward to it!!

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      • #19
        Looks like you are well on your way with the parts you'll need to make the build. Looking forward to your progress, and your version of this structure Rich.


        Louis L&R Western Railroad
        Pacific Northwest Logging in the East Coast

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        • #20
          I like the title, A Few Buildings On The Edge Of Nowhere. I'm following.

          Scott

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          • #21
            Thanks for everyone's comments.

            Greg ~ Thanks for the nice comments and for following along.
            This is a diversion from all of my projects in the 1:1 world, and the timing for getting the forums back was perfect.
            Also, if the info was correct about getting a 1099 for selling on Ebay and using other cash apps gaining income over $600,
            now is a good time to search for rare kits, they're selling much cheaper than in previous years. People are letting them go
            for a lesser price to get rid of them, rather than get stuck for taxes.

            Bernd ~ Thanks for following along.
            You are correct in your assumption, but I have already fixed that criteria in one of my upcoming posts. I added steel I-beams
            to the underside of mine, rather than using a wooden beam like in that picture. It may not be the way to go, but hopefully a little
            sturdier.

            Fred ~ Thanks for following along and I'd better watch out, after seeing your wonderful modeling, you have a really keen set of eyes
            for fine detail.

            Louis ~ Thanks for following along and your nice comments. We often search for things we think we need but always end up with more than necessary.
            That's ok though, we have more for the next project !

            Scott ~ Thanks for following and thanks for the nice comment. I have a "secret Mission" in mind for this project which will be revealed at a point
            somewhere "down the line".. so to speak in railroad terms... And - I didn't realize that you joined in 2019, I read what you wrote in the Arrival Track
            and Z scale? Wow, that is small ! No one will ever make me do anything but HO scale, that's small enough for me. So, I never officially welcomed you
            to the forums ~ SO WELCOME ABOARD ~ And by all means... have fun !!

            I will be updating this later tonight.

            Rich

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            • #22
              Hooray! Glad to see Rich back at work, grabbed a seat and will be following as well. Nice 'score' on those eBay parts.

              Jim
              Take the red pill

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              • #23
                Originally posted by BurleyJim View Post
                Hooray! Glad to see Rich back at work, grabbed a seat and will be following as well. Nice 'score' on those eBay parts.

                Jim
                Hey there Jim.. thanks for coming along for a ride.. most of the seats in the front row are already filled, but if you choose one directly behind Bernd,
                you will be able to see everything going on..cause he's ...s h o r t.

                Rich

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                • #24
                  Glad to see you back in the saddle my friend.
                  Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                  • #25
                    Ok.. time to make some progress..

                    As you can see in the picture that Bernd posted above, there is a short wall just above the three brick pillars, where it meets with the edge of the sloped roof.
                    Directly below that, more nearer to the bottom of the main building (behind the loading dock), is another wall, ( the wall that has two large freight doors in it ).
                    If the kit were constructed as intended, these walls, along with the two opposite side walls, make up the main building. Kit shows that a false wall (at the back),
                    ( behind the freight door wall ), is constructed from either a piece of cardstock or wood. The purpose of the "fake" wall was to provide cover from an adjoinging
                    building "B", whereby no stone wall is needed when it won't be seen anyway. Building "B" was glued to the back of the main stone building.

                    The following picture is taken from Tony Burgess's thread which shows this more clearly. BTW, Tony was a good friend of mine (RIP Tony), and gave me permission
                    before he passed away, that I could use any of his pictures for any purpose.

                    As you can see in the following picture, Tony made the fake wall a little different than the instructions in the kit. He constructed his stonework around the back
                    corners on both sides to accomidate his building "B" that was a narrower width than the one intended in the kit which was wider. Also, his "fake wall" extended to
                    the top of the roof, as was the case in the kit instructions.

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                    After contemplating what to do for my build, I decided to use the two walls I made for the freight door wall, stone walls top & bottom , the same for my "fake wall" at the back.
                    In other words.. my building would have four freight doors at the bottom on both sides and the short stone walls on top of the freight door walls on both opposite sides.
                    Now if I have confused anyone with this, no worries because I am certainly confused myself !!!

                    In the following picture I am using the sketch posted earlier for figuring the measurements of these walls, as they have to be the same size to keep the building square.

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                    Also shown in the above picture, is how I construct my freight doors using a thin .025 (I think) piece of chipboard, and gluing on HO scale 2 x 6's and 2 x 3's.
                    The original metal kit walls had metal freight doors. Another reason why I like to use hydrocal stone walls is this. If I used the metal doors, (in my hydrocal stone walls),
                    I would have to scrape away the stone (in the doorway openings) in order to make them fit the openings, which would also loose any detail. Making my own doors to fit
                    the openings as they are, eliminates this.

                    In the following picture, I am showing all of the hydrocal stone walls I made to build the main stone building. The wood freight door in the upper left corner is also
                    scratchbuilt. The other doors are metal and the six windows are from Rusty Stumps Scale Models.

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                    Next up will be sanding and fitting to put this building together.

                    Thanks for looking.

                    Rich

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                    • #26
                      Originally posted by David_J_Buchholz View Post
                      Glad to see you back in the saddle my friend.
                      Yeeee...Ha...!! Thank you Dave.. well put..

                      Rich

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                      • #27
                        Rich,

                        Looks to me you're approaching this in a logical way, engineering-wise. The steel beam under the overhang will be an improvement.

                        You are well on the way to an outstanding model.

                        Mike
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                        Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                        • #28
                          A list of Rich's next several projects.
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                          Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                          • #29
                            Rich,

                            I like those cast walls better than the metal ones. The texture is much more subtle than the harsh corners of the metal castings. I think it'll look a lot better once they are painted and weathered. Your doors look great too.

                            Bernd
                            New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds

                            Main thread to all that's happening on the NY,V & N Rwy. The New York, Vermont -and- Northern Rwy. - Railroad Line Forums (railroad-line.com)

                            New York, Vermont -and- Northern Rwy HOn30 Quarry Line https://railroad-line.com/node/31167

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                            • #30
                              Thanks for commenting, Mike, Dave (picture), and Bernd. There's lots to do...

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                              In this last picture I posted last night, the window and door openings all except the six small boarded up windows of the peaked walls at the top, still have hydrocal
                              in their openings. I didn't cut them out because my building will not be lighted, therefore it hides the interior from being seen.

                              Also, in this picture, the walls have not been glued together yet, they are just lying where they will go. I painted the rough opening hydrocal with Model Color AV
                              acrylic vallejo paint 70.983 Flat Earth. This was one bottle, part of the set for Wood & Leather Effects. Any paint would do, but I wanted a color of soft brown that would
                              be similar in hue to the color I wanted to match my finished stone walls.

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                              As a side note: You cant see the backs of the stone walls in the picture, but I glued thin (0.25) chipboard to the backs of all the hydrocal walls for added strength.
                              As to clarify this statement, below is a picture of this as you can see them behind the peaked walls.

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                              In the picture above, the white cardstock (floor) was added to also provide rigidity and strength to keep the structure square.

                              In the following two pictures, you will see that the building has been glued together at this point.

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                              Also note in the above picture, lines are drawn on the underside of the overhead portico where I will attach metal bracing for the building, of which will be attached to metal I-beams to support the upper stone portico.

                              In the next two pictures, you will see that I cut away the hydrocal openings in the two, bottom freight doors openings, as I was going to leave them open. After considerable
                              thought, later I decided to close them in again by making two additional freight doors to close them in. I had added an additional piece of white cardstock to make a lower floor,
                              also for additional rigidity and strength.

                              At this point in my build, I did not yet fill in the building corners with my slurry of liquid hydrocal. I did do this later, but like I said earlier, I lost a huge amount of pictures when my computer crashed, and I cannot show that portion here.

                              Next post will be making the walls for buildings "B" and "C".

                              Thanks for looking.

                              Rich

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