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  • eBay has consolidated the Model Railroads & Trains subcategories

    Many of my eBay searches failed overnight and turned up loads of HO stuff instead of O scale stuff, and then this morning I discovered that I was unable to browse by categories within "Model Railroads & Trains".

    Found this: Category Changes - October 2021

    All the subcategories that were under "Model Railroads & Trains | ID: 180250" have been consolidated. The changes are listed here:
    https://pages.ebay.com/sellerinforma...eview2021.html

    It seems that eBay kept the "Power & Control | ID: 180339" subcategory, but moved everything else that was under "Model Railroads & Trains" into a single new "Railroads & Trains | ID: 262301" subcategory. So, all of the scales and subcategories that you might have used like HO or in my case looking for O scale/Decals......all gone.

    Pretty much renders eBay as pointless if you have to wade through 100k listings to find anything now.

    Guess I'll end my own listings and just sell at meets from now on.
    In a time like ours seemings and portents signify. Ours is a generation when dogs howl and the skin crawls on the skull with its beast's foreboding.

  • #2
    WOW I never knew that happened as i was searching this morning in On3 .....Ill check it out again.

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    • #3
      I haven't really noticed anything , but then I never use the Categories side bar anyway. I've always found it to be pretty useless .

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      • #4
        Well, when you search for something and get 5 to 10-fold more listings found than in the past it's because you now get all scales lumped together into the same pot now. I have to go through several steps to filter and subtract out HO, N, S, etc. out of my searches now. While that's doable, and you can get pretty specific, it's got to be compromising sales since it's a lot more work to set up and do those searches.
        In a time like ours seemings and portents signify. Ours is a generation when dogs howl and the skin crawls on the skull with its beast's foreboding.

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        • #5
          What is it about these internet companies that they continually take stuff that works and make gratuitous changes, that mostly demonstrate they have NO BLEEPING CLUE how their customers actually use the product???

          (I blame 'agile methodology', which emphasizes coding before thinking and changes without any understanding of consequences of same. Doing software -right- is hard, most companies can't be bothered...)

          dave
          Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)

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          • #6
            Nailed it, Dave!!!!
            In a time like ours seemings and portents signify. Ours is a generation when dogs howl and the skin crawls on the skull with its beast's foreboding.

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            • #7
              they continually take stuff that works and make gratuitous changes

              Right Dave.
              Add to that, the very common drive by company decision-makers to get promoted, which is the reward for "coming up with something new"!
              Carl

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              • #8
                I never really relied on the categories. Create your own category by simply typing in what you are looking for, say "O scale windows", and hit enter.
                This will search the TITLES only. If you want those words to search the descriptions as well, select FILTER and scroll down and select "search in description" as well.
                Now if you like the results you are seeing, simply click on "Save this search".
                I would much rather rely on what the seller put in the TITLE or DESCRIPTION rather than what Category they chose, which may not be what I would have picked anyway.
                Most people I believe search by TITLE or TITLE and Description, so all is not lost . . . .
                Hope this help.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by trainsforallDIV4 View Post
                  I never really relied on the categories. Create your own category by simply typing in what you are looking for, say "O scale windows", and hit enter.
                  This will search the TITLES only. If you want those words to search the descriptions as well, select FILTER and scroll down and select "search in description" as well.
                  Now if you like the results you are seeing, simply click on "Save this search".
                  I would much rather rely on what the seller put in the TITLE or DESCRIPTION rather than what Category they chose, which may not be what I would have picked anyway.
                  Most people I believe search by TITLE or TITLE and Description, so all is not lost . . . .
                  Hope this help.
                  Actually, my searches were set up by Title and Description..........but within the category of O Scale so as to eliminate everything else.

                  Now the issue w/o the categories is that my O scale searches that were returning 5-20 items are now returning 200 or more items.....inclusive of all scales.

                  Yes, I can set up new searches that include "O scale" in the search; however, if the seller does not put the scale in either Title and/or Description, those listings are not going to be included in the search results.

                  So, sellers are going to have to be diligent to specify scale and other details in the Title and Description to make searches work for buyers

                  In a time like ours seemings and portents signify. Ours is a generation when dogs howl and the skin crawls on the skull with its beast's foreboding.

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                  • #10
                    I discovered this change last night and I'm not happy with the change at all.

                    I can't tell you how many unique items I've found because the seller didn't know what they had or listed it incorrectly. Just picked up three packs of vintage Gandy Dancers HO figures for less than half the price one pack typically goes for. The seller had them listed in the HO category, but not described in a way that typically gets views and would lead to a bidding war.

                    Of course this tactic relies on patience and the ability to search accurately within categories. Cast too broad a net and I'll waste time sifting through unrelated listings. Too narrow and I'll likely miss something. It is akin to wandering the train show tables and looking in those wonderful cardboard trays down under the table where the real 'fleas' are. The guy that knows what he's selling is likely to have it at market prices or higher, based on what he thinks he can get. But the seller who is just trying to get rid of 'junk', will ask you to name your price or make a deal. If that 'junk' includes a mis-labeled piece of vintage rolling stock or pile of FSM castings, or Central Valley trucks, well, you get the idea.

                    I suspect the sellers who are willing to put in the time and adapt to the changes will still be around because they have a dedicated base of buyers. I just picked up a set of decals from K4 supply company and I've purchased from them before, quite happily. But this may mean an end to Grandma Snerd flogging her son's collection of Campbell kits from his youth that he no longer wants, et al.

                    Galen
                    My Train Blog: http://ocalicreek.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      Back when eBay was actually responsive to its users (buyers and sellers), they set up panels that would advise them on how to organize categories. They dropped those advisers and started reorganizing based on their understanding of what worked best for a few high volume sellers. I suspect the same algorithmic approach is at work here.

                      dave
                      Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)

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                      • #12
                        Well what ever they changed I DONT LIKE IT for the last 18 years i been on e-bay I always put in ON30 or On3 and seen what i wanted to see thousand of Items.......now it all turned to S--T

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                        • #13
                          Oh boy my turn! They rank worst. I'm very careful who I buy from. Some of those vendors are crooks with excessive postage and price of goods.
                          Just last night I tried to return a reply to a seller and the email does not work...

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                          • #14
                            I think that eBay has pretty much screwed up the whole model railroad search by having to go through additional steps to find what we're looking for. One thing that eBay is always trying to do is to get users exposed to as many listings as possible whether you're interested or not. After all, it's a seller's platform, not a buyer's.

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                            • #15
                              One good thing on my End is I have way to much detail parts in My Stash....I going to have to make a list now of every Venders web site & Phone number that sells O scale quality detail parts and use more sites on Stinking Facebook on O scale narrow gauge to keep up on whats new as e-bay is dead in the water for me

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