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  • What__scale do you model in Narrow Guage??

    I just recieved my first FineScale Narrow Guage Annual. I notice that most bldgs are modeled in either 1/43. 1/32 or 1/24 scales. Do they use all these scale for Narrow Guage RR's. This is very confusing. :erm:

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    Bill, scale and gauge are two totally different things, although people (and even some model RR authors) frequently confuse the two terms. Gauge refers to the distance between the rails. Most narrow gauge roads in the US were 3' between the rails, although there were also some roads that were gauged for 30" and some for 24". Scale, on the other hand, refers to the relative size of an object when compared to the full-sized prototype. As a result, a model can be built in any of several common scales, including O (1/48 or 1/43), HO (1/87), N (1/160) and so forth. As an example, a narrow gauge track in HO would be 1/87th the real size but still have 3 scale feet between the rails.

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    • #3
      This can be very confusing and even more so in the larger scales because they go by 1/24 etc. as you mentioned instead of O, HO or whatever in the smaller scales. Like MikeC said, I like to think of scale as how big something is and gauge for the distance apart the rail is no matter what the scale is. I model HO and HOn3 so I have dual rails in some places. What that means is HO is standard (8' 4 1/2" between the rails) and HOn3 (3' between the rails). Narrow gauge is anything less than standard. Sometimes you might see HOn30 which is the same as HOn2 1/2 (30" or 2 1/2') that confused me at first.

      This picture shows a dual gauge coupler car showing both my gauges.



      The page it comes from is http://jim.wanlass.com/mr/jt/rolling...car/index.html

      I hope this sheds some light on the subject and doesn't confuse you more.

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      • #4
        Mike & Jim, thanks for those enlightning descriptions. More confused than ever . I think what I was trying to understand is:

        Would you use HO structures while operating Narrow Guage RR? I do understand the difference between track spacing. I really do appreciate the feedback...thanks :up:

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        • #5
          Bill, HO scale structures would be entirely correct for HO narrow gauge, the same as O scale structures are appropriate for use with On3, On30, etc. Remember - just because the gauge was smaller as was the railroad equipment that ran over the smaller gauge, the surrounding structures did not necessarily "shrink" in size also.

          This is an example of a narrow gauge tool caboose spotted next to a "full sized" structure. Both are HO scale. The scratchbuilt caboose is HOn3; the structure in the background is "regular" HO scale.... just as in the real world.





          I hope this helps clear some of the confusion.

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          • #6
            Mike, That is exactly what I was looking to hear. You have answered the Question. Many thanks. :up:

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            • #7
              I agree with what Mike said, well put.

              I have a fun example between standard gauge and narrow gauge, both HO.



              http://jim.wanlass.com/mr/jt/rolling...rs/dining.html

              As I say on the web page where I have this picture, the dining car is huge but it runs on my HO dual gauge track. The box car inside is tiny but runs on the same track. It just so happens that the buildings next to that track is the same size regardless of which car is going by, just as Mike pointed out.

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              • #8
                In 1998 when I got into the hobby and saw narrow gauge, I asked the same questions.

                A couple of years ago I created a test track ( cause i'm a rubber gauger" :erm: )...for the various pieces of equipment I had.

                This test track proved a winner at expo's, where a lot of questions where answered....

                "what is the difference between scale & gauge"...

                example... "O" scaleid="size4"> buildings, with various combinations of track width, to represent track "gauge"..id="size5">id="red">

                O scale standard gauge... ( also used for Gn2 )

                On3 ( 3' gauge ) also ( 3/8n40 )

                On30 ( 2' 6" gauge )

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                hope the attached pics makes sense and help others, in some small way....

                Big "M" ( Celebrating 56 years on this planet.)( Sept 2nd 1950) [:-party]
                " Stay Motivated in Life "

                http://www.modvid.com.au/html/body_mario_rapinett.html

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                • #9
                  I also had all the same doubts as you Bill when entering the hobby, nowadays narrow gauge represents what I most like in it.

                  Mario, that piece of test track is very enlightning, and by the way congratulations on the 56th aniversary, hope you are going to celebrate it in a big way! Have fun!

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                  • #10
                    [:-party][:-party][:-party][:-party][:-party]HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARIO!!!id="red">id="size5">[:-party][:-party][:-party][:-party][:-party]

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                    • #11
                      Mario, first of all, Happy 56th[:-jump][:-party][:-party] From here on it's all down hill :erm:

                      Secondly, thanks for the show & tell. This has cleared any doubts I had, I guess I'll have to call you SUPER MARIOid="size6">id="teal"> :up: :up: :up:

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by MikeC


                        Bill, HO scale structures would be entirely correct for HO narrow gauge, the same as O scale structures are appropriate for use with On3, On30, etc. Remember - just because the gauge was smaller as was the railroad equipment that ran over the smaller gauge, the surrounding structures did not necessarily "shrink" in size also.

                        This is an example of a narrow gauge tool caboose spotted next to a "full sized" structure. Both are HO scale. The scratchbuilt caboose is HOn3; the structure in the background is "regular" HO scale.... just as in the real world.

                        I hope this helps clear some of the confusion.



                        Of course, there's always the selective compression and forced perspective issues!

                        But let's not muddy the waters any more.

                        Hey! Happy Birthday Mario!!!!!id="size5">id="green">

                        Scott

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