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    Hi,

    I realize this might be off-topic, but I wasn't sure where else to place it.

    I was just curious if anyone had the Trainz simulator and what they thought of having to send all the way to Australia for the add-ons they promised us. YardMaster will be released soon for Trainz, and they have already released PaintShed and service pack3, which are ONLY available either online with credit card, or by airmail from Australia. Ticks me off to have to send away for those. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem.

    Sorry for posting in the wrong area. Thanks for your attention.



    Wolv33

    CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

    http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



    Wolv33

    CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

    http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html


  • #2
    Hey Wolv33, I recently received Trainsim and wanted to make a few changes, but decided to leave things as is until I get a little more familiar with it! From what I gather, lots of folders and space taken up.I'm not sure about sending out for add-ons anywhere because if I made any changes to the game, it would be just for the Loco of my choice! I know there are alot of people who would want everything they could get for it, but I guess I'm not one of them. The game itself is sufficient for me as of now! Do you plan on the add-ons anytime soon? Let me know how things go if you do!! Take care buddy!

    Randy

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    • #3

      Randy,

      I think we got our tracks crossed here.

      I was referring to the Auran TRAINZ train simulator that was available in Australia, and then they finally marketed it here in the U.S. What my rant was about, is that they are NOT bringing the rest of their add-ons and stuff here. They are expecting the people in the U.S. that bought their simulator, to purchase all add-ons online or by airmail Australia. That to me...is WRONG!

      I believe you are referring to the MSTS or Microsoft Train Simulator, right? I have that too, but I haven't even taken it out of the box yet. I also have a number of 100s of add-ons of rolling stock and engines for that too.

      Lemme know what you think. Thanks.



      Wolv33

      CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

      http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



      Wolv33

      CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

      http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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      • #4
        Wolv,I have the Trainz and find it is ok,but perfer Train Sim.Like Randy I find alot of add ons.

        Randy,Do you have the Erie Mining add on? Did you know they are going to release a Sand Patch add on for Train Sim? I understand there well be more like add ons to the game.I really enjoy this game.

        Larry

        C&O FOR PROGRESS!

        Edited by - brakie on 09/16/2002 06:32:24

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        • #5

          Hey Larry,

          I have both the Train Sim Modeler and Erie Mining both by Abacus.

          The TRAINZ software does take a bit more 3D punch to keep it moving, as well as memory and hard drive space. But, with their new add-ons...YARDMASTER and DISPATCHER, you are supposed to be able to run them with real operations in mind. With YardMaster you can create yards, humpyards, switching, etc. I was just upset that to get these, from a company that offered the base product here in the U.S., you have to send away to another country for them.

          Scenario... If you purchased MSTS and Microsoft told you that you had to buy their next add-on from their German division either on-line or by airmail, convert your US money to deutchmarks, pay extra airmail shipping and handling, worry about customs, and if you did not pay online, have to locate a place to get an International Money Order, etc. Wouldn't you just be a little upset?

          I will have to get my MSTS out of the box. I fell in love with the SD40-2s that are supplied with the TRAINZ software. I haven't yet had the chance to run the DASH-9s on MSTS.

          Later.



          Wolv33

          CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

          http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



          Wolv33

          CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

          http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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          • #6
            Larry,

            I haven't downloaded any extras as of yet. I hadn't heard of the Sandpatch add-on. I will have to start thinking about some of these. I'm still getting used to all the different keypad controls. I would like a CSX engine to go with this and maybe I will get up the nerve to download it! I KNOW WHERE ONE IS!! I really enjoy this game more than any I have. It's alot of fun!! LOVE THAT DASH 9!!

            RANDY

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            • #7

              Randy and Larry,

              When I find the time, I will attach a list of URLs that you can get add-ons from. Most of them are FREE, but some of them you have to pay for.

              Perhaps when I get my ADD-ON cd compiled and burned, I can get you guys a copy. No danger of copyright violations, since the stuff is free to download. I would just be saving you the time in searching and downloading them.

              I have the same add-on type collection for TRAINZ. Randy, if you haven't already, you might want to check TRAINZ out too. I seen that the price has dropped considerably since I dropped my $50 for it. Something like $29.99 at EB. Their main attraction for me was the ATSF SD40-2 snoot nose.

              Later guys.



              Wolv33

              CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

              http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



              Wolv33

              CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

              http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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              • #8
                Hey WOLV33,

                Now you know how us Aussies feel when we have to order stuff from the US. You are getting the same treatment(or better - bitter experience speaking) that we get from most American suppliers.

                Russ

                Moss Lake Lumber Co.
                Russ

                Moss Lake Lumber Co.

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                • #9

                  Mosslake,

                  Companies here in the US, market, ney...distribute products "actually" in Australia, in your currency no-less, allow you to purchase them "IN" your country, and then FORCE you to send away to the US for add-ons that will enhance the product you bought in Australia????

                  There should be a trade law against that kind of thing, even for your side. It should be that IF a company is going to distribute their products in another country, then any subsequent products to follow-on should also have releases in that country too.

                  I am not talking about distributing through Internet or mail-order. I am talking actual products on US or in your case, Australian soil. Then the add-ons or further products being distributed in the country of origin, rather than the country they were distributed in, and being forced to buy them in the country of origin.

                  Enough ranting. Just bite my lip and pay the fricking fees.



                  Wolv33

                  CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                  http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



                  Wolv33

                  CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                  http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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                  • #10

                    In other news...

                    Auran just announced a press release that the Ultimate Trainz Collection will be released in time for Christmas. This is a stand-alone version of the Trainz simulator, the new Paint Shed for Trainz, and an extended package of locos, rolling stock, and other items that have been released since Trainz hit the shelves. Auran is offering discounts to previous Trainz owners. You get $20 if you already own and have registered your Trainz product, and another $20 if you own the new Trainz Paintshed.

                    This will be available for on-line purchase and mail order purchase sometime soon.

                    Auran also announced that Trainz Yardmaster will be released in Mid 2003 with a whole new list of features.

                    As for MSTS, the new SandPatch add-on is available or should be available soon. I do not remember the site's name right now, but there is a website out there that puts out professionally-looking locomotives with sounds and cab views. Each locomotive is a pay-for download. They are very impressive though.

                    I think I am going to email Auran and see if they will add a PayPal feature to their Trainz Community, so I can at least order the new add-ons on-line, and not have to worry about getting Intl Money orders.

                    Later.



                    Wolv33

                    CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                    http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



                    Wolv33

                    CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                    http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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                    • #11
                      quote:


                      Companies here in the US, market, ney...distribute products "actually" in Australia, in your currency no-less, allow you to purchase them "IN" your country, and then FORCE you to send away to the US for add-ons that will enhance the product you bought in Australia????


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                      I'm not going to get in an argument on this but yes this is not an uncommon occurance. And don't forget that the currency exchange rate also means we pay double the US price. The Bachmann HO shay for example, USD $129-$160. It is not below AUD $360-$400 here. I personally haven't been caught in the 'upgrade & add-on' thing that you are talking about because I chose to keep my layout 'low-tech' which is why I still use a Digitrax 'Challenger'.

                      I understand your frustration with this, but maybe the problem was with the US marketing.

                      Russ

                      Moss Lake Lumber Co.
                      Russ

                      Moss Lake Lumber Co.

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                      • #12

                        Hey Russ,

                        No, wasn't intending on an argument. I was just trying to see it from your side as well. I hope my post didn't come off that way. One thing I have learned while operating computers (20+ years), is that you cannot tell by the typing, how a person is trying to express themselves, and thus I never jump to conclusions over it. And no, I am not saying you are jumping to conclusions either.

                        Concerning your situation. Bachmann does not have an Australian market there? They do NOT sell their products in Australia? I was under the impression they sold to the UK and Australia. Hmmmm.

                        Currency exchange does not bother me. I have to pay more for something in the UK, than I do in the US. That is just the nature of ordering something in a different country. I have no problem with that. But when another country brings their product to my country, I pay for that, then learn that to get other products from the same company, I have to send away for them or get them on-line....well it just tends to set a person off.

                        To illustrate my point, and I do apologize if I have upset you or annoyed you, that is NOT my intention here, let's consider this scenario:

                        Let us say that Bachmann releases a set of locomotives that you want. It is going to be a series of steam power that you know about, love, want, and would like the entire series of units. They decide to market the first locomotive in Australia, and sell it in Australian currency at hobbyshops in Australia.

                        You become estatic, rush down there, and get the first in the series. You can hardly wait to get the second unit. You read about it at their website, and anticipate putting the second unit next to the first in the roundhouse. You think how great it is going to be to have the whole series of units sitting on your layout.

                        Now, Bachmann does a complete turn-around, despite the positive sales of units in Australia. They announce they are going to release the rest of the series in the US, and if you want, you can get the rest of the series via their website with a credit card, or you can send away for the second one by mail-order.

                        Now, wouldn't you just be a little upset with Bachmann? I would be.

                        And I do KNOW what you are saying and where you are coming from. My youngest brother lives in Australia. He rants to me all the time about having to pay more for something he wants from the US.

                        As I said though, I am just going to bite my lip, and pay the postage and money order fees, and hopefully the package won't get lost in the mail.

                        I thank you for your attention, listening to my rantings, and believe me, if they did this to you in Australia, I would be the first to stand next to you, and complain to Bachmann alongside you, for their "marketing practices".

                        Russ, have you ever considered someone making the purchase in the US for you? Course, I guess the currency exchange rates would be the same. So much for that idea.

                        My apologies if you have read me wrong, or if I have upset you in any way. That was not my intention here. Just wanted to get people's opinions and see if anyone else had the same problems I had, or at least how they felt about the situation.

                        Thanks again.



                        Wolv33

                        CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                        http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



                        Wolv33

                        CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                        http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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                        • #13
                          Wolv33,

                          I understand your position in this, just as you understand mine.

                          No you havent upset me and I hope I havent upset you.

                          I will contact Auran and see what they have to say, I mean, it surely cant be that hard to have Walthers or someone similar to handle their product.

                          What part of the country is your brother in?

                          Russ

                          Moss Lake Lumber Co.
                          Russ

                          Moss Lake Lumber Co.

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                          • #14
                            Hey guys, i have another question on trainsim. If you find a download you want to install on the game, how do you go about it? Like i said, i haven't had it that long and haven't tried to download anything yet. I know that i need to make up a folder for this so i will have a backup so as not to have to keep reinstalling if i mess up. But how do you actually get, say, a csx engine in place of the bnsf? Thanks!!

                            Randy

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                            • #15

                              Russ,

                              Thanks. I was worried where our discussion was headed. Didn't want it to turn ugly, and when you mentioned that you "were not going to get in an argument" I thought my post had seriously went South. LOL!

                              I try to be as friendly as possible. I have helped people and people have helped me. I love this forum, because we all seem to be like one big happy MRRing family.

                              My brother lives in Brisbane, but not sure where. We talk to each other on ICQ all of the time. He is the electrician and one of the auto mechanics in the family, so I usually bother him when I need something done with electricity or wiring. I am the computer expert/network tech in the family, and everyone in my relation comes to me for computer help. Sometimes it can be a burden. LOL!

                              He got hooked up with a girl from the Internet, and it turned out she was the daughter of one of the more successful attorneys on the Continent. Go figure. LOL!

                              I did email Auran, and they said they would forward my comments to the management team. They have a great product! I just wish they would market it better.

                              Thanks so much, Russ.


                              Randy,

                              I still have yet to take my MSTS out of the box. With work, home-related work, and my HO railroad projects, just never have time to sit down and play computer games anymore. Sorry. I bet one of the other guys here can help with that though.

                              Later guys.



                              Wolv33

                              CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                              http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html



                              Wolv33

                              CEO Midwestern Double-line Railroad

                              http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/wolv33/mwdlrr.html

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