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  • Old PRR line from Toledo to Mansfield

    The Toledo Branch as I was told it was called. Ran from Toledo to Toledo Jct (Mansfield). This what I have from someone else.

    "The total distance from Mansfield to Detroit was 142.0 miles. They operated via the Ann Arbor between Manhattan Jct. and Alexis, then via the C&O between Erie and Carleton (now the Lincoln Secondary uses the same trackage rights over CSXT). From Toledo to points east, it went through Walbridge Gibsonburg, crossed the NKP at Burgoon and Maple Grove, Tiffin, Carrothers, Vernon, then into Mansfield at Toledo Jct. on the west side of town (where it joined the mainline from Pittsburgh to Chicago). "

    I was wondering if anyone knew the type of grades and bridges the Toledo branch had in the portion from Toledo to Mansfield (Well close enough)?

    Thanks
    If the builders plate doesn\'t say ALCO.

    Its not a real locomotive!

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    Edmund,I have followed the old road bed from Carrothers to Toledo.Most of this is pretty flat and maybe .05% in spots.I can tell by looking at the road bed this was double track most if not all the way from Toledo Jct to Toledo as the road bed is still in good shape.I am sure this track was still in place when I moved to Bucyrus in 1987 and remember crossing it on my way to the Lake Erie.The track,as you know,from Tiffin to Woodville is being used by the Northern Ohio & Western.

    Edmund,Tell you what I am willing to do.I am willing to go and take pictures of the road bed from Toledo Jct to Toledo if you would like.I been meaning to do this for some time now before it becomes over grown with weeds and trees.Let me know.

    brakie

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    • #3
      Brakie,

      That would really nice but I wouldn't want to be the cause of so much work. I would love to see pictures of where the rail ran. But, like I said don't do it for me. I really appreciate the offer. If you go ahead and do it Brakie let me know.

      Thanks for the information. So that line doesn't have any steep grades. Good then 4 axle loco's will work well on the line. Was there any bridges?

      I must have missed the bit about the Northwest Ohio and Western. I thought that NS had a section from Carruthers to Marion. But I didn't know anything about the section Tiffin to Woodville. If you told me before Iam sorry it didn't sink in.

      Thanks for all of your help.

      P.S. I posted a question a while back on the Beginning with Bucks section under your Athrean maintainence guide topic. It concerns an Athrean U33B I got recently. "I have an Athearn U33B that is new. I turned the flywheels a little and it seemed fined. So I put a little oil on the shafts. Then grease on the gears in the trucks. Then I turned it by hand again to work them in. That is when it tightened up and made a little clicking noise. Then it was free again. I turned it more and it was fine. Then I turned the other way and it tightened up and clicked again. Sounds like it is coming from the front truck. Is this a problem? Is it serious?" Any suggestions?

      Do you have any suggestions to the problem?

      Edited by - Edmund on 07/05/2002 16:03:15
      If the builders plate doesn\'t say ALCO.

      Its not a real locomotive!

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      • #4
        Edmund,That line from Carrothers to Marion is located on the old PRR Columbus to Sandusky line which was sold to the Norfolk & Western back in 1964( when the N&W merged with the NPK and leased the Wabash)..The Toledo branch cross the Sandusky line at grade at Carrothers.There is a map that shows the Toledo Branch running from Bucyrus to Toledo,BUT,it is not right for the PRR Toledo branch.This was the Toledo & Ohio Cental(NYC) later became part of the Penn-Central.This line also went to Tiffin and still being used as far as National Lime Stone at Spore by the CSX.(ex CR track).

        As far as that Athearn U33B sounds like the gears is catching on something.There should not be any clicking to this unit.You will need to take the trucks apart and check for burrs on the gears,any object that should not be there,ballast,metal shavings,ect,and of course to insure the gears are messing right.Also check the gear box cover to insure it is on correctly,check the gear housing clip located on top of the truck and holds the truck on.Let me know what you find.We will get this unit running.

        I will get back to you on the bridges,I am heading out to Tiffin this coming week and will follow the road bed again.This is not a problem as I like to follow old road beds.

        brakie

        Edited by - brakie on 07/05/2002 20:38:32

        Edited by - brakie on 07/05/2002 20:39:17

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        • #5
          Hi Brakie. Thanks for the clearifacation of the PRR line. I will have to look at a map to follow it. A recent Trains has a map of the lines that made up Conrail. When I get time I will pull it out and look at it.

          I will appreciuate any information you have on the Toledo branch bridges.

          I just got back from visiting my parents for the 4th. I will be leaving early tomorrow for Houston. So I will have to try to take a look at the gears of the U33B sometime next week. After I do I will send you an email on what I find and if it still does it. Thanks
          If the builders plate doesn\'t say ALCO.

          Its not a real locomotive!

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