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  • Smoothside hicube plug door 50' SP box cars?

    Not much traffic here but I'll take a chance!

    Does anyone know if there are any replica's of 50 foot hicube SP box cars with plug doors? I know MDC makes a couple (single and double plug doors) but honestly, I've never seen a photo of an SP box car which look exactly like them. The double door car has the double doors offset rather than centered. Photos of the double plug door car seem to have unequal size plug doors too. Has anyone ever made one of these beasts or one of single plug doors cars? I'm talking about the ones without roof walks, highcube with flat roofs.

    Since I don't recall seeing any, I think this is one of the more needed boxcars for SP fans! Like me!

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    Dunno if'n I can help ya much on who offers the style of car you may want, but here is a couple of good sites on Espee freight cars.

    http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/

    http://espee.railfan.net/sp_fcss/index.html



    Don in Oregon City• CEO: WISHRAM, OREGON & WESTERN

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    • #3
      Thanks Tankertoad... those are good links. Only one of them has a photo of the hicube smoothside double and single plug door box car.

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      • #4
        As far as I know, no one makes what you're describing. Both LBF and Walthers make ribbed-side cars, and while they're (espcially the Walthers) are attractive models, neither are accurate for any SP or SSW class of car. I've been planning a project to center the doors on the MDC car, which will produce both an SP and WP prototype car.

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        • #5
          Modesto, if that is where you live... I used to live up Hwy 99 and left from Sacramento in Davis CA. That was home for quite a few years but I'm in Syracuse NY for a while now.

          Anyway, which Walthers box car are you saying in incorrect for SP? The only ones I can think of are the new "paper boxcars". SP sure had a lot of smooth side hicube plug door box cars! We sure could use some!

          Anyway, I'd be interested in seeing how your MDC conversion goes. BTW, what about those Details West smooth side peaked roof double plug door box cars? Those are pretty nice and I have one painted for SP and another for WP.

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          • #6
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            Modesto, if that is where you live... I used to live up Hwy 99 and left from Sacramento in Davis CA. That was home for quite a few years but I'm in Syracuse NY for a while now.


            Anyway, which Walthers box car are you saying in incorrect for SP? The only ones I can think of are the new "paper boxcars". SP sure had a lot of smooth side hicube plug door box cars! We sure could use some!

            Anyway, I'd be interested in seeing how your MDC conversion goes. BTW, what about those Details West smooth side peaked roof double plug door box cars? Those are pretty nice and I have one painted for SP and another for WP.



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            I actually live about an hour south of Modesto, but it's the area that I model.

            The Walthers box car that I was referring to is the Gunderson Paper loading car. It's a pretty boxcar, but it's not an SP boxcar. However, if I were modeling a more modern period, I'd probably have one or two.

            The Details West car is accurate for both SP and WP.

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            • #7
              Hey, thanks for the info... I was planning on buying one of those SP paper boxcars from Walthers... But if it is bogus, I'll pass it by. There are too many models I want to buy which are not bogus. Too bad... that Walthers box car is pretty.

              Good news about the Details West double plug door box cars!

              Now, what about the DW single plug door box car? I have three decorated for SP.

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              • #8
                I'm not sure about the plug doors, but it looks right, and given the fact that Details West seems to be run by SP fans, given the number of SP-specific detail parts they offer, I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

                Also, E&C shops (now LBF) makes a 50' high-cube which is a match for SP's B-100-50 class (just found that one)!

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                • #9
                  An hour south of Modesto??? I used to be stationed at Castle AFB and lived in Atwater, 82-86. Great location for watching the Espee and Chico stormin' down the valley.

                  Don in Oregon City• CEO: WISHRAM, OREGON & WESTERNid=blue>

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                  • #10
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                    I'm not sure about the plug doors, but it looks right, and given the fact that Details West seems to be run by SP fans, given the number of SP-specific detail parts they offer, I wouldn't be surprised if it was.


                    Also, E&C shops (now LBF) makes a 50' high-cube which is a match for SP's B-100-50 class (just found that one)!


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                    I have a couple of the E&C shops SP high cubes. They are supposed to be based on the very last order ever made by SP before the UP merger. I think I've seen some similar models painted for earlier models. I've also got a couple E&C Rio Grande hicubes... they are nearly dead on except for some of the rod detail on the plug doors.

                    I'd be pleased to find out what other boxcars are prototypcial for SP... The MDC moder box cars look very close to photographs I've seen. We really do need those smoothsides though!

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                    • #11
                      Those E&C hi-cubes appear to be right on for Espee's final box car order. I recall brand new strings of those puppies coming out of the Gunderson plant in NW Portland and heading south through Oregon City. Although I am not much of an Espee fan, it was really great seeing the resurrection of the herald.

                      Don in Oregon City• CEO: WISHRAM, OREGON & WESTERNid=blue>

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