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  • EMD GP7(slash)GP9 Question

    Did EMD ever offer the GP7 and/or GP9 with a low short hood? Or are all low short hoods the result of modifications made by the railroads after the locomotives were delivered?

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    A small number of GP9s were built with a low hood. Most of them went to the Espee while the remainder went to a mining company, maybe it was Phelps-Dodge or Kennecott Copper. I am not sure which one. The low nose equipped GP9s on the Espee are easy to mistake for GP20s.

    Don in Oregon City

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    • #3
      This post brought this question to mind: Was the GP-15 EMD's first new low hood loco?

      papa smurf

      Tom in NH

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      • #4
        Tom, the GP15-1 was not introduced until the '70s. EMD created it to compete with the various companies rebuilding Geep 7s, 9s and 18s. The first massed produced EMD low nose hood units were the GP18s and 20s, and the SD24s.

        Don in Oregon City

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        • #5
          Tom,the GP15 was EMDs answer to the GP7/9 rebuild programs.As Don stated did not come out till the 70s which was durning the height of the rebuild programs.Sadly the GP15 did not see the success of the 2,000 hp GP38-2.Which is commonly known as the GP9 of the 70s!

          brakie

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          • #6
            To Brakie or anyone else that knows,

            Did C&O rebuild most of their GP7s and GP9s with low noses? Also, for GP7s and GP9s rebuilt after 1973, were the units generally painted with the Chessie paint scheme sublettered for C&O? I am trying to get an idea of what GP7s and GP9s operated by C&O looked like from 1968 to 1978.

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            • #7
              P.E.No, the Chessie only rebuilt few of there GP7/9s.Most that was rebuilt obtain their geep look.Most of the C&O geeps remain in the C&O paint.Here is a very good site for Chessie C&O.www.trainweb.org/chessiephotos/.

              brakie

              Edited by - brakie on 05/09/2002 22:28:06

              Edited by - brakie on 05/09/2002 22:30:01

              Edited by - brakie on 05/09/2002 22:31:59

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              • #8
                P.E. I recommend that you put this in your favorite column.Even though I worked on the Chessie,i still use it alot.Note some of the B&O Geeps.If you will notice they have C&O numbers,horns and bell mounted on the short hood as well as the cat.The reason being they are EX C&O units assigned to the B&O! I trulely hope you enjoy this site and thank the owner for putting so much time in this site.This makes modeling the Chessie so much easier!

                brakie

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                • #9
                  Thanks Brakie. Looks like a good site. I have added it to my favorites.

                  PowerEngineer

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                  • #10
                    Youre welcome.BTW the 6161 (GP9) is what the normal C&O rebuilts looked like.

                    brakie

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                    • #11
                      Larry,

                      I use that site all the time. My youngest daughter, now 18, is a big 'Chessie' fan, and anything for that road she wants available. It is a great site.

                      Don in Oregon City

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                      • #12
                        Don,Even though I worked for the Chessie,I see units I never knew the Cat had! I knew that had tons of Geeps of all types,but what got me was the Alco painted in Chessie.I thought all ALCOS was retired and off the system.This will also apllied to the WMs BL2s they used at Haggardtown.The common units on the Big Sandy Sub was any and all Geeps,same as the Cincinnati and Northern Divison.Sometimes a SD40 would show up but,that was arare unit on the C&O.I saw the 614 more then any Sd unit,except the SD18s at Russell(Ky) yards.My daughter collects any thing with Chessie,Peake,and the kittens on it.She has just about every coffee mug made with that cat on it! That web page is priceless to the Chessie modeler.

                        brakie

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