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  • Thank you guys for the links, videos, and all around conversation about pine trees. Now I just need to get the concept through my thick skull. I'm going forward and give it another try.
    Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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    • Larry just remember tapered at the top. Your getting there keep up the good work!
      Jerry



      "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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      • Jerry thank you for the encouragement; much appreciated.
        Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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        • Ok they say third time the charm; I think I'm getting closer:



          This tree will be in the back of the hill since I forgot to paint the top where it goes to a point...oops!



          This will give you and idea of what the hilltop will look like, minus the clothes pins. On the other three trees I wrapped the point with a piece of filter to hide the point. Also sprayed the outer half of the branches and sprinkled on some fine flocking.

          I think I'm on the right path; just need to play with the shapes of the filter pieces for a more natural look.

          Any thoughts? Don't be bashful.
          Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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          • Going good Larry. We're a tough crowd when it comes to trees. I'm no expert, just passing on info I've read, and has been given to me.

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            Just work on the shape a bit, less foliage towards the top than the bottom, and I would have the point protruding just above the foliage.

            And although real trees don't always grow straight, on models they don't look right if leaning.

            And remember the 3,5,7 rule when planting.

            Don't group them in even numbers. For some reason the eye prefers them in odd number groups.
            Regards Rob

            Despite the cost of living, it's still popular

            My current build.

            https://railroad-line.com/node/40644

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            • Looks better, but I agree with Rob's observations.

              For something different for the branches I've seen ming fern used.

              It's available in craft stores that sell dried flowers/greenery.
              Follow along as my dog and I travel the country in our van.
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              • Larry here's Fran Palmers Ming trees look in classroom for other versions.

                http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/t...EPLY_ID=835429
                Jerry



                "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                • Rob thank you for your help and pointers they are much appreciated.

                  Rick thanks; I've heard of using those types of ferns for trees.

                  Jerry thank you and thanks for the link to Frank's classroom tutorial. Those are some awesome looking trees!!

                  Again I would like to thank all you guys for your help. I never thought that making goo0d looking pine trees would be so difficult.
                  Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                  • The trees have been redone somewhat and planted on the hill; not glued in yet. Sprayed the trees a dark brown then reapplied the flocking with a cheap hairspray. This gave the tree branches some depth. Made two more trees and did the same. Still have two more to make for the hill. That will give me seven, an odd number as Rob suggested, then will plant some stumps on the incline part and also a bunch of weeds.

                    May try the ming fern route for some more pine trees to give the layout some variety. Also will be making the wire trees as time goes on.





                    That's the state of things on the CC&W. After I finish the hill it's time to work on the track and maybe wire up some of it. I think I may want to switch some trains.
                    Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                    • UPstanding trees.
                      Karl Scribner-Curmudgeon

                      Cedar Swamp
                      SW of Manistique, MI

                      Avatar image by Savannah Lyn Burgess 7-15-2022

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                      • And of course, don't dismiss the old, wire & rope method to make pine trees.

                        Very simple, and they look great, especially if you add a carved trunk at the bottom.(Pt 2)

                        Part 1

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur0WUSfui6E

                        Part 2

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftDNO1e89I

                        I make all my N scale pines this way, but they work in larger scales just as good.
                        Regards Rob

                        Despite the cost of living, it's still popular

                        My current build.

                        https://railroad-line.com/node/40644

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                        • Larry, they're looking better.
                          Follow along as my dog and I travel the country in our van.
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                          • Karl thank you; it's new territory for me.

                            Rob thank you and for the video links. I'll check them out and see how they are.

                            Rick thanks; I'll take better. Going to keep pushing forward. I think that I'll do something else for a bit then revisit the trees some more. One nice thing about doing a layout is that you can move to different stuff if you get stuck then return. Worst case....I can always make my wire armature trees instead of the pine trees; but I'm not giving up yet.
                            Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                            • Larry,

                              Please do not give up; you are already modeling to a high level, and your trees are taking shape. I wouldn't get too hung up on them. You've got a railroad to build.

                              Have fun,

                              mike
                              O scale builds: Choctaw Lumber Kitchen, Dining Room, and Buffalo Canyon RR Caboose

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                              • Mike thank you and thanks for your words of encouragement. I've watched a few videos; I think that I just need to get the shape better. Some guys on this forum are actually artists when it comes to making trees; and I'm not. Trying to find a balance between mine and theirs that I can live with. Going to give them a rest for now and move on to something else for awhile.
                                Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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