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  • #31
    Michael thank you for all your help; it's greatly appreciated. I think your on to something with the hilltop; I like that idea. I have figured out what's wrong with my method for the rocks; I have been "too heavy handed" with the carving. Going to try another approach which I think will work.

    Yannis glad to have you following along and thanks for the compliment. By the way I'm using Atlas flex track in HO scale, along with three turnouts. This should give me a track appearance of about code 55 rail in On30. May rework some of the ties while I'm at it. Since I have a box of HO cars and engines the chassis will be used and On30 tops will be scratch built. Hopefully the new track will be here around the 20th or so.
    Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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    • #32
      Now that I have figured out what I was doing wrong with the rock carving I wanted to share the new & improved version, at least I think so, of the rock formations:





      I changed over from trying to actually carve the foam to using a black pen to add the layers to the rock face. This gave me the lines with a slight grove which didn't break the foam face which was the problem before. I also used a lighter grey base color which I thought looked more natural for my area. Then added the raw sienna wash which was wiped off then did the same with a white wash. The layers were put in at a slight angle to look more natural. I did carve the top to look like a hilltop and added the base scenery material just to see how it would look. Trees and weeds will be added later on.

      There is a ridge which starts a few miles out of town and runs for many miles right up to Chittenango Falls and past. I wanted to model some of this on the layout; at least on part of layout:



      The two pieces of foam have been painted but not glued together yet. When they are glued the seams between them will be filled in with some caulk and touched up with paint. The two new pieces will have the same basic scenery material added to the tops with trees and weeds which will be added later.



      I did very, very carefully separate the Hammer Room from the main shop. Now it will sit adjacent to the Shop and will be made a little bigger for a Hammer Shop. More details will be added to it. There will be a track going between the two which will be blocked electrically and will hold the cars full of materials for both Shops. Also the Hammer Shop helps to break up the straight angled incline of the last piece of foam.

      The new track and stuff hopefully will be here sometime next week so I can nail down the track plan. The idea is to finish the half of the layout with the Shops before doing the other half; of course that's always subject to change.

      That's where I'm at for the moment. Any thoughts/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
      Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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      • #33
        That does look more realistic.

        I did fieldwork for my masters thesis (paleontology) through the Finger Lakes. I don't remember stopping at Chittenango Falls; the rocks were below the interval I was sampling. One of the outcrops I studied in detail was near Skaneateles Lake. Another was further east. Most weekends the summer of '73 involved hitting US 20 east and dropping south to an outcrop of Hamilton Group shales and limestones for sampling. It was a great summer.

        Mike
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        Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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        • #34
          Michael thanks. I've fiddled with this so much I wasn't sure; it all started to look the same to me. There is an area a short ways below the Falls where the rock has slid down over the years. We used to go there looking for fossils when I was in High School....a long long time ago.
          Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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          • #35
            Larry, this looks great.

            Nice job. :up:

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            • #36
              Larry, structures and track look like good progress. I like that you can easily see the interiors of the shop. Will you add sound to the structures? ~mike

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              • #37
                Larry your getting the hang of it now. Nice work!!
                Jerry



                "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                • #38
                  Rick thank you. I just needed to get the technique down.

                  Mike thanks, I wanted the interiors to be very visible after all the work that went into them. Never thought of sound for the Shops; great idea...we'll see.

                  Jerry thank you. That's one thing about doing something new...lots of experimenting and fun. I did manage to waste very little in the way of supplies.
                  Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                  • #39
                    Puttering right along; here's an update:



                    The rock work in this area of the layout is done except for a lot of trees which need to be made. The basic ground cover is down and the corners are filled and painted. May add more detail ground covering later.



                    Borrowed a page from Roland's playbook (Hopeless) and decided to have all my buildings on eighth inch plywood and detailed around the building. That way if I ever have to take down the layout, I can still have my buildings to place on a shelf to look at. This will be the only building where the track goes inside which will have to shimmed up to make up for the plywood.



                    Here is he side of the Shop which will have some trees added and a scratch built rectangular water tank for the boiler. Also I tried to vary the ground cover to add some interest.



                    This is the back which needs a tiny bit more ground cover added up against the building. The plywood was cut at an angle to make room for a siding which will go between the Shop and the Hammer Shop.



                    No self respecting Shop would be complete with out a junk pile. Here's a closeup of said junk pile. It's a small piece of track, some rail, a few items from the parts box, and a few parts from a demolished bic lighter. Everything was given a coat of rust and a few items were glued prior to ground cover to look like they had been there a long time. I've since touched up the glue with some rust colored paint.

                    That's where I'm at for now. The good news is my track/turnout order came today so ,hopefully, tomorrow I can tackle the track plan; at least on the left end of the layout.

                    Any comments/suggestions are always appreciated. Thanks for stopping by.
                    Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                    • #40
                      Lots of good planning and execution being shown here.

                      Very well done.

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                      • #41
                        Rick thanks for the nice compliment. Trying to figure in my mind what order to do stuff so I don't have to redo anything...we'll see how that works.
                        Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                        • #42
                          Larry said "Trying to figure in my mind what order to do stuff so I don't have to redo anything...we'll see how that works."

                          God be with you my son![:-angel]
                          Jerry



                          "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                          • #43
                            Jerry now that's funny!! Didn't say it was going to work...maybe I'll get lucky. To quote NY State "hey, ya never know".
                            Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                            • #44
                              The track plan has been sorted out and all of the track has been cut and fitted together. Nothing has been glued down yet until the track and ties have been painted by hand. I don't use spray paint because I find it can interfere with the electrics sometimes:



                              This is the left end of the layout. The track goes right up into the Shop and a shim was the perfect thickness to make the rail even with the one in the Shop. The spur, which is #1 electrical block, on the right goes between the Shop and the Hammer Shop which will hold a couple of cars for either one.



                              This is the other end of the layout. There are three switches total which will have switch-stands to change the rails. I really don't like seeing track parallel to the front of the layout so I was able to manipulate the track so there is a nice angle to the track. Between the track closest to the front and the middle track, which is block #2, it can hold about nine cars which should give me some switching capability. The track closet to the back is where the Coal & Wood businesses will be. The rest of the track is block #3.

                              The track plan is simple which gives me lots of room for scenery and buildings to scratch build but large enough if I want to play trains. When I start gluing down the track there some ends that will need filing so I get a smooth transition from one piece of track to the other.

                              That's where I'm at for now. Next up...not sure yet, maybe see about some sort of backdrop before I start gluing anything to the layout itself.

                              Thanks for stopping by...more to follow.

                              Owner, General Manager, and all around "chief cook and bottle washer" of the Caz Coal-and-Wood Railroad

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                              • #45
                                Larry,

                                I really like your layout plans and it's simplicity. Like you stated, it will compliment, not compete with the buildings.

                                Those rocks came out well! The little bit of angle does help and the coloring looks good. I will be attempting rock for the first time as well this year.

                                By the way, I camped at Chittenango Falls the night before I started at Syracuse back in the 80s.

                                Question, what type of adhesive do you glue the tracks down with?

                                Scott

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