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  • Boy, Isn't She Stacked!

    Thought that title might get your attention.

    Here a while back I saw a brass engine on eBay that had a really good looking diamond stack on it. Here's some pictures of it:





    The stack really reminds me of the stacks the D&RG used. That stack would fit in nicely for some of my C&P's short smoke box coal burners on that will be on the roster.

    Question: Is there a similar stack available in HO scale?

    I'm not conversant at all with the steam engine parts that are still available from vendors. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks!

    Andre

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    Precision Scale Company makes a wide variety of locomotive parts including stacks in HO scale. Their website is https://www.precisionscaleco.com/train-parts-catalogs/. Download the HO Scale Steam Locomotive catalog (117Mb .pdf) and the stacks begin on page 152.

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    • #3
      Andre,

      MDC’s old time locomotive kits came with a choice of stacks, including the style you are looking for.

      Mike
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      Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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      • #4
        Hi Guy!

        Thanks for sharing some input.

        As for the MDC stack... to my eyes it always looked a bit "odd" in that it is quite flat and that thick rivet joint. However... I do have some on hand.

        ping jockey:

        Thanks for the jog/reminder! I checked the PSC catalog. More below!

        All:

        Okay, so I threw together a "comparison" pic to compare what is available that's the CLOSEST to the stack on the brass engine. None of them truly hit it. Here's that picture:



        None of the options look as nicely proportioned as the one on the brass engine to my eyes. The MDC's look too flat with that thick joint ring. The PCS 3108 looks too small in diameter and not enough angle, however that could be just the artist's rendering in the PSC catalog, the real part may be better proportioned.

        Ah, getting too picky here, aren't I?

        [:-magnify]

        All fer now!

        Andre

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        • #5
          Andre,

          I agree that the MDC part is a bit odd and clunky looking, and also that the stack you show looks like a D&RG piece. I think the PSC image is a little distorted - I have at least one stashed away somewhere and I don’t recall it having the slightly vertically stretched appearance in the catalog image.

          I do wonder if the HOn3 casting might be a little small for standard gauge engines. It could be fine, but an S scale part might fit the bill too. I don’t remember if PSC makes that stack in S, but you could ask the guys at The Leadville Shops (I think they can make everything necessary for an Sn3 Class 60), or of course John Agnew at Railmaster, although shipping from New Zealand might be a bit pricey for such a small part.

          Chris

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          • #6
            Hi Chris!

            Thanks for sharing some input.

            Ah, so you think the PSC 3108 is a narrow gauge item? That changes things significantly. In one of my past modeling lives, I modeled in Sn3, and my primary power wad derived by building some of the Railmaster C class and Mogul kits. I don't recall the specifics (size) of the S scale version of that stack compared to HO standard gauge. Unfortunately, I sold off all of my Railmaster stuff some time ago, so I can't open a box and compare the Railmaster D&RG diamond stack to an HO scale ruler.

            Hm. May have to hit the S scale Yahoogroup list I'm still a part of and ask that question.

            BTW, the brass engine I pictured above was on eBay. When I first saw it it was something like $85. Loved the lines and "look" of it. (I think it was supposed to represent a PRR prototype?) So I thought: "Hey... if that little sucker goes for around $100 or so I'm IN!".

            It didn't. It went for way more than that.

            There is apparently such a dearth of decent link n' pin era models that when one does show up on eBay... it gets out of my "buy" range pretty quickly.

            All fer now!


            Andre

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            • #7
              Andre,

              I don’t thank you’re being picky at all. Makes sense to do it right.

              I agree the flange is too large. You might be able to thin it down without too much trouble. And then reduce the diameter some.

              Have you checked Shapeways for similar stacks?

              Mike
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              Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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              • #8
                Shapeways, eh? Well, who'd a thunk it! (I sure didn't.)

                Ran over there right quick and I turned up this:

                https://www.shapeways.com/product/GQ...li=marketplace

                It's dead-on in regards to shape. Essentially looks identical to the stack on the brass engine.

                AND... looks to be a product by our own Hakan Nilsson!

                I haven't a clue what it is like to work with a Shapeways plastic(?) product. I can see from the pictures there will be lots of sanding. Does the material use traditional liquid cement such as Faller, Pla-Struc, Testors, etc? Any of you have any experience with such material?

                Andre

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                • #9
                  Yes, I’m fairly certain that’s a Class 56/60/70/72 stack (probably also the same for other early Rio Grande and Rio Grande-origin engines). I’m not aware of any diamond stacked standard gauge power on the D&RG or RGW. Actually, I can’t think of any in Colorado, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m forgetting something.

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                  • #10
                    Andre,

                    I assume that you would need to use ACC.

                    Mike
                    _________________________________________________

                    Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                    • #11
                      A Shapeways rep told me that FUD can be solvent-cemented with methylene chloride (acrylic plastic cement and some of the model-oriented products).
                      James

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                      • #12
                        Hi again Chris!

                        Understood on the PSC stack being narrow gauge.

                        You opined:

                        "I’m not aware of any diamond stacked standard gauge power on the D&RG or RGW. Actually, I can’t think of any in Colorado, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m forgetting something."

                        You haven't read about, or heard about, the Colorado & Pacific? They were a standard gauge outfit that beat the Colorado Midland into the Rockies by a few years. They had some diamond stack, and even funnel stack, engines on the roster into the 1880's.

                        Several of the early arriving railroads to the Front Range of the Rockies had standard gauge locomotives with diamond and funnel stacks. The Kansas Pacific had diamond stacks. The Colorado Central standard gauge division had Nesmith and (early style) Congdon stacks. There may have been others, but my knowledge of the Colorado flatland railroads isn't too deep.

                        Mike:

                        You are probably right (again) about needing ACC.

                        At least I've found some of that type of stack. I will consider taking the plunge and giving them a shot. I'm bit nervous about the material Shapeways used... but hey... can't be much different than working with resin.

                        All fer now!

                        Andre

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                        • #13
                          jbvb:

                          Forgot to say in my above post:

                          Thanks for that information you posted! That's good to know.

                          Andre

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                          • #14
                            Andre,

                            My comment was accidentally posted twice. I’m not really that insistent and I have since deleted the duplicate. I like the idea that a solvent like methylene chloride would work.

                            Either way, I’d be comfortable using these parts. Easier than brass in my opinion, but don’t tell Bernd I said that!

                            Mike
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                            Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                            • #15
                              You might find these of interest;

                              https://www.shapeways.com/product/JY...li=marketplace

                              https://www.shapeways.com/product/5T...li=marketplace

                              https://www.shapeways.com/product/AS...ionId=59044360
                              It's only make-believe

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