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    Not sure where the best place to post this information, but read a description of this ultra flat black acrylic paint (it really does absorb almost all light that falls on it, making a painted object look like a black hole). Though a bit pricey and temporarily sold out, looks very interesting. No connection to the paint or its developer.

    Here are two links with a little more information about the paint:

  • #2
    Now that's BLACK.


    • #3

      Except for maybe soot, I think it's TOO BLACK for our model needs. I often mix a little white

      into my black. The old saying for model work is "there is no such thing as pure BLACK or WHITE",

      they both look wrong on a model (of course there are always exceptions). A VERY DARK gray

      usually looks better.

      What's your thoughts on this?



      • #4
        Bob, This is paint much, much blacker than soot! I wonder what happens to the effect if the black gets mixed with any other color?

        Yes, I think a very dark gray often looks better than true black, especially on models photographed inside with artificial lighting. Trying to get enough light to show details on a black locomotive without burning out the surrounding image is one reason dark gray can be good. Also many blacks fade quickly in sunlight, so a faded black usually looks more prototypical than real black.

        Possible uses of this ultra black include:

        1. Paint both sides of a small disk of paper, glue in paw of Wile E. Coyote for him to try to drop as a "hole" in front of the Roadrunner - Ray Dunakin could test this idea for us on his Inkopah RR

        2. Paint things you want to look very deep, like a shallow model hole representing a deep well; inside of tall chimney or cave entrance.

        3. Paint as base coat on structure interiors as guaranteed light block layer. Can topcoat with colored paint on walls to look like interior wall.

        4. Paint inside of haunted house to give it an unfathomable black hole look. - Greg Shinnie or Terrell test this one?

        4. Paint underside of rolling stock to hide lack of prototypically modeled brake rigging and other detail

        5. Paint seamless paper for photo light box background that would give spectacular floating-in-space look to models posed in the box.

        6. Paint a freight car all over and say it it a top secret project that was later blacked out of photo accidentally taken of it passing by


        • #5
          Bob, here's an interesting YouTube video about brush painting an On3 engine with black gesso that gives it a flat, but not perfectly black finish

          What do you think of it?


          • #6
            7. Cheap hotel room camouflage.

            Take the red pill


            • #7
              Good video except future turns a sheen of blue if you get it wet. I suspect the decal failure was due to the future. When I was in the spit shined era of the Army, some soldiers would use future on boots. I remember being inspected during the rain and all the toe and heel guys had blue boots![:-bigeyes2] Needless to say they were busted by the Command Sergeant Major. Words like, your breath will smell like Kiwi.....some of you prior service folks know what I'm referring to.[:-scared]



              • #8
                Maybe use this to paint the interior of a tunnel near the portal. Talk about disappearing into the mountain!
                The V & T lives in my garage. Soon...



                • #9
                  I'm not really sure how useful this product would be in our modeling world. I'm really understanding how it could be used in other art projects/mediums. Remember that an effective way for us to create shadows is the use of complementary colors and color tone values.

                  I suspect that the pigment particles may be a bit course, thus possibly obscuring some fine detail, particularly in the models finish. And for myself, I'm having a difficult time trying to remember when I last used 'Mars' or 'Lampblack' black paints without a lot of dilution and a bit of a lighter color value. Inks, yeah, no problems in the use of a dark black, but the inks are translucent, not opaque like this paint.

                  Last, please include the thoughts that most of us view/display our modeling under something other than optimal lighting, which also increases the shadow and dark color values. There is also the effect of distance in the 1:1 world, which translates to washed out colors, as noted earlier.

                  For myself, about the only application I can think of is something like a strong black undercoat, like in figure painting. But again, I'm thinking that that the color value may be too intense. I don't think that one would want to use this product straight out of the bottle in our modeling projects however.

                  I concur that the super black may be very effective at adding depth dimension to something like a cave opening in the side of a hill.
                  -- KP --

                  Life is to short to build all of the models I want to.


                  • #10
                    The only thing to use black paint for is to paint on shadows. Otherwise, everything that is "black" in the Real World (tm) should be painted some sort of dark grey. I use Panzer Grey/Neutral Grey #3 for a lightly weathered black, e.g. grabirons or locomotive bodies. (Neutral grey color set: )

                    Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)