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  • #31
    David,

    I like the look of that feed mill. Nice combination of shapes. Of course, I always like historic structures.

    Mike
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    Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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    • #32
      I've revised some portions of the trackplan as of 02/21/2016 I'm trying to get more of a cove area feeling. By swinging the station on the left side into the isle area, it gives a better allusion to that end.

      Your comments thoughts and ideas on design, details, operational faults etc are most welcome. Tell me what you like or dislike and/or see that I didn't!
      Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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      • #33
        Man I like this plan David...

        There's a fantastic amount of water! [:-snorkel]

        And, I was raised south of Buffalo, so let's see what this brings....
        Carl

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        • #34
          You have quite a few industries accessed via switchbacks. Enough so I'd rearrange the left end of the yard at top center so the yard/enginehouse lead merges into the dock/car float spur and makes a long runaround or arrival/departure track. You could keep the crossover in the middle, or remove it.

          Also, if your car float is going to have more than one track, switching it prototypically will benefit from a place nearby where the switcher can stash half a track's worth of cars. This could be done by returning to the yard, but that might interfere with the operational feeling of 'going to switch the car float' and 'coming back to the yard'.
          James

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          • #35
            JBVB, if I follow you correctly on the yard lead question, have the spur to the car float/station pier become the yard lead instead of using a separate lead, as it is long enough to serve both purposes?

            Agreed the float track could use some storage track. Good point. Can't get a handle on where to add it though.
            Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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            • #36
              I would place a turnout, points facing left, connecting the two tracks opposite the road that crosses the river. Or a little farther left if you can build/buy a curved turnout with the correct radii. I would leave both tracks as drawn between the mill building and the tunnel portal to the right of the enginehouse. Otherwise, originating a train of more than ~6 cars from the terminal area will be very involved.

              To improve car float switching, you could put a 2nd track on the inside of the curve to the pier/float. Assuming your TT is drawn to scale and is less than 90 feet, the edge of the aisle is 24" or less from the wall at the slip with the smaller boat drawn in it. So it would be practical to reduce the aisle width by 2 or 3 inches.
              James

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              • #37
                I was apparently resizing some corrections as you were replying. Here's what I got from your original reply. Not sure if I nailed what you (JBVB) were thinking or not before your most recent post.



                Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                • #38
                  quote:


                  Originally posted by David J Buchholz

                  Anybody else (HOn3 nuts)here in Rochester NY?



                  Hi Dave. Does West Bloomfield count?

                  HO standard, HOn3, HOn30 and TT

                  Bernd
                  New York, Vermont & Northern Rwy. - Route of the Black Diamonds

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                  • #39
                    Yes, that counts.
                    Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                    • #40
                      That's close, but using a LH turnout at the end of the lead/runaround requires the foot or more of straight track you've drawn. Ending the yard lead at a right-hand turnout at the end of the curve would improve the use of space IMO.
                      James

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                      • #41
                        I'm not quite picking up on what you are trying to convey. Going clockwise from the float dock. The turnout at the yard throat is right hand. Note the elimination of the original drill track in this drawing. Did you mean keep the original drill track, but simply merge in back into the float track/station lead, rather than have it be stub ended? It would prevent having to go all the way back to the turn out just before the port area tunnel to do yard related runarounds.

                        Going counter clockwise, the turnout for float storage siding is left handed. Are you suggesting something altered here from the latest drawing?
                        Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                        • #42
                          "...Did you mean keep the original drill track, but simply merge in back into the float track/station lead, rather than have it be stub ended? It would prevent having to go all the way back to the turn out just before the port area tunnel to do yard related runarounds...."

                          That was what I meant.
                          James

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                          • #43
                            David,

                            I definitely like your concept here. Railroads along waterfronts seem to take on some odd configurations, making them fascinating to model. I think you captured this complexity with lots of opportunity for interesting scenes.

                            You're getting some good advice too.

                            Mike
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                            Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                            • #44
                              It's good to have other eyes available to look it over for "flaws and challenges." Thanks to all.

                              I've been working on that plan since October 2015, so it's been a work in progress. (Aren't they all?)

                              Dave
                              Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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                              • #45
                                Ok this should incorporate those suggestions now.

                                I also simplified the fuel tank farm in the port area as well. It was a bit too messy.


                                Home of the HOn3 North Coast Railroad, along the shores of Lake Ontario.

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