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  • N2626
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    Both the Walthers metal axle (920-2300) and plastic axle (920-2301) wheel-sets have metal wheels as per Walther's website:

    https://www.walthers.com/exec/search...RKS&subc=WHEEL

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  • bitlerisvj
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    I wonder if the metal axle wheelsets have metal wheels or plastic ones? Does anyone know?

    Regards, Vic B.

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    Originally posted by NP2626


    I was just at Walthers website earlier this week looking at Wheel-Sets and they where still showing the packets of 12 each 33" as "Out of Stock". However, you are correct, they are available now at $13.98 for metal axles and $11.98 with plastic Axles. ModelTrainstuff shows packets of 12 metal axle wheel-sets available at $9.99; but, is not showing the plastic axle sets as available, yet. The photos provided of the new Walthers wheels show wheels that are not nearly as detailed as the old Proto 2000 wheels. However, eventually when they get distributed to the retailers, they are giving a choice of metal; or, plastic axles which is nice! I'm sure I will try a packet at some point in the future. For anyone who has already tried the new wheels from Walthers, I am interested in what you think?


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  • N2626
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    I was just at Walthers website earlier this week looking at Wheel-Sets and they where still showing the packets of 12 each 33" as "Out of Stock". However, you are correct, they are available now at $13.98 for metal axles and $11.98 with plastic Axles. ModelTrainstuff shows packets of 12 metal axle wheel-sets available at $9.99; but, is not showing the plastic axle sets as available, yet. The photos provided of the new Walthers wheels show wheels that are not nearly as detailed as the old Proto 2000 wheels. However, eventually when they get distributed to the retailers, they are giving a choice of metal; or, plastic axles which is nice! I'm sure I will try a packet at some point in the future. For anyone who has already tried the new wheels from Walthers, I am interested in what you think?

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  • john_holt
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    I just received a Walthers product up-date e-mail today. They show 33" wheel sets with metal axles to be in stock now. And also 33" wheel sets with plastic axles to be in stock now.

    #920-2300 for 33" metal axles

    #920-2301 for 33" plastic axles

    Also showing 36" wheel sets, in stock.

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  • N2626
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    No problem, John. The Kadee wheel-sets are very nice, other than the tread isn't shinny, like the P2K's are. You might like to give them a try.

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  • john_holt
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    Mark....Sorry about the repeat of info from page two. I'll be getting a refund for that speed reading course I took. I was trying to keep up with this thread abit as I too had been using the Proto 2000 wheelsets as replacements on some Bowser hopper cars and I still have some more of those kits to build. I got into using the Proto wheelsets when my LHS was having a hard time getting Intermountain wheels. Go figure. Now the Protos are not available. :erm:

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  • N2626
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    Thanks John, This information was previously given on page 2 of this thread. My supplier is out of the IM 40050 wheel sets, so I bought a couple packs of the Kadee Code 110 wheel sets.

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  • john_holt
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    Intermountain web site under "Accessories" lists 33 inch wheelsets #40050. These are the wide wheels most common. They list their 33 inch semi-scale wheelsets #40052. The second being the narrow more to scale width wheels. All are listed as brass wheelsets.

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  • N2626
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    Vic B, Yes, isn't it nice they would recommend Wheel-Sets that they have advertised, for over a year and are still not available to the public?!? What a way to run a railroad! However, as I have stated elsewhere, I still like Walthers as I can generally find exotic parts and stuff there! My guess is this is a factor of the joys of a global economy. A supplier can charge you for the tooling and then market it as their own product (from your tooling) and take forever getting your parts to you. Not saying this is what's going on; but, I've heard many horror stories about dealing with Eastern Pacific Rim suppliers! Having been in the manufacturing business myself, tooling might take 2 months to produce, actually producing production runs should happen slightly longer. Being out of 33" Wheel-Sets for over a year, tells me things ain't going right!

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  • bitlerisvj
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    Which, by the way, are not in stock, of course.

    Regards, Vic B.

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    Originally posted by NP2626


    "The old Proto 2000 wheel sets have been discontinued. They have been replaced with a newer wheel set item number 920-2300".


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  • N2626
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    I have been on a campaign of asking the manufacturers what is going on, when I have questions about one of their products. On Tuesday of this past week I went to Walthers to see what I could find out about why the changed suppliers for their Proto 2000 Wheel-Sets. Here is what I said:

    "I have wondered for around a year now, why the old P2K wheel sets are no longer available? I have around 150 freight cars, approx. 130 have P2K wheels and now I've had to look else where for a replacement manufacturer and am less than satisfied with what I am finding! Also, why has the new 33" wheel-sets taken so long to procure from your new supplier? I have been a long time customer!"

    I was a tad testy with them, as I had asked about this a couple times before and never gotten a response! I like Walthers, generally when no one else has an item, I can find it at Walthers. I did get a response this time:

    "The old Proto 2000 wheel sets have been discontinued. They have been replaced with a newer wheel set item number 920-2300".

    Not much of an answer, I had deduced at least this much, just from going to their website! I find it interesting that Customer Relations has been reduced to simple, canned, soundbites! More than likely what is happening is the overseas supplier is just not forthcoming with information. Some of you do not care for the old P2K wheel-sets, so this won't matter too you. However, I liked them.

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  • N2626
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    I have done three things about this situation: 1). I informed modeltrainstuff (M.B. Klein) that this information is not printed on their website where they are selling these items. 2). I informed Reboxx that this information isn't getting across to their retailers. 3). I informed Intermountain Railways of this same problem.

    Don't know if anything will change; but, let's hope!

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  • N2626
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    Chuck, Thanks for the information. No, I'm not able to exchange. However, I'm going to use the Code 88 wheel-sets I have on trains that don't move very much. At least that's what I'm thinking right now.

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  • wvrr
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    Mark,

    I couldn't find any specs on their website that defined the two, either. However, I did find another discussion thread after a quick on-line search:

    http://www.trainorders.com/discussio....php?3,2977023

    Are you able to exchange the set you bought?

    Chuck

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  • N2626
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    Dutchman can I ask you how you have deduced this information as I can't find any information stating as much and I have been to Intermountain Railway's website looking.

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