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    I was involved in HO model railroading as a youth now in my 50's I'm going back in time only this time I'm looking at On30. Here's the situation I belong to a non-profit "Back to Nature-Classroom Connection" and am working on a grant from the local mine to build a turn of the century modular railroad with a lower level mines and caverns and a upper level desert scenes. I love Thunder Mesa & Nature's Wonderland railroads and would really want to use some of their ideas. This will be built for educational purposes and will include different interactive desert animals and mining scenes. The plan is to be modular so it may be put on display at schools, libraries & events. So ANY suggestions will be great!!! Just be prepared for a lot of questions. BTW on average what kind of clearance height do you need for On30 rolling stock? Thank you [:-jump2]

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    Welcome to RRL Dan! While I'm not into On30, I can assure you you are in good company here! Lot's of talented people who will be more than willing to help, so feel free to jump in. It would be great if you started a thread on your layout build as I'm certain you will have a following of plenty of people who can jump in and offer assistance.
    Mark

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    • #3
      Thank You Mark, I planning on starting construction in the fall.

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        Welcome Dan,

        You have reached a very active ON30 group here who are willing to help out daily.

        The odd thing is most of them stay inside the ON30 line section of the forum so it is best to post questions there for ON30.

        You are asking a loaded question on clearance height for ON30 and if you are modeling inside a tunnel it could be very small.

        I have dabbled a litte on a few projects in ON18 and ON30 inside of tunnels, this is one i could find quickly.

        http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/t...TOPIC_ID=25014

        You can get cars into very small spaces under 2" high if need be.

        Good luck

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          BigLars your work is beautiful! I noticed an On18 modular mine layout that you are working on that is a lot like what I'm imagining. I'm thinking of something like a 3'x6' modules that can be handled by 2 persons. The reason for this larger size was mainly for depth of scenery-arches, cliff dwellings, animals etc. Would that be two big for modular? BTW I am a retired building contractor and an avid caver so I'm planning on scratch building all my structures and scenery.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by GeocaverDan


            BigLars your work is beautiful! I noticed an On18 modular mine layout that you are working on that is a lot like what I'm imagining. I'm thinking of something like a 3'x6' modules that can be handled by 2 persons. The reason for this larger size was mainly for depth of scenery-arches, cliff dwellings, animals etc. Would that be two big for modular? BTW I am a retired building contractor and an avid caver so I'm planning on scratch building all my structures and scenery.


            Thanks for the kind words. I am looking forward to what you come up with.

            The size of the modules would depend on many factors. First is size of the transport vehicle. Second is going through doors, you really want to avoid tipping the modules on their sides and risk loosing details to the floor. Most shows have wide doors but not always. You may have to deal with a 30" door at some point.

            Then consider building the modules as light as possible, you can not always get that close to the door of the show.

            So I would try to stay at 29" wide if possible. 5' long gets it in most SUV / hatch backs.

            Then again that is just my 2 cents worth and others will have different ideas.

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              Thank you again that's a good thought about the door. I'm planning on using 2" pink Styrofoam/wood trim as my base and with adjustable legs for different ages to enjoy. I'm also an astronomer so I'm used to setting up and taking apart components for public demonstration, however I have never had to deal with doors LOL. I have been thinking about a trailer with shelves to slide the modules into. This is all conceptual at the moment there's a lot of drawing, planning, funding and collaboration to get this off the ground yet. We are planning on working with a college and a large mining company to accomplish the work, I can't give names until it's finalized. The college sponsorship is 90% sure we're just working out the final details.

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                Welcome, Dan. Regarding Larry's point about not tipping the modules: it's a good idea, but in practice it's hard to avoid. I'd only rely on a "no tip" rule for modules that would only be moved a few times, and always with me present. There's a good deal that's been written, here and elsewhere, about scenery and structure techniques that stand up to repeated setups, takedowns and moves. And as exquisite work posted here by groups in the US, Australia and the UK shows, it needn't compromise the quality of the result.

                [edit] The creator of this thread is using pink foam for his scenery base, but he's supporting/protecting it with a lightweight wood frame: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/t...TOPIC_ID=37524
                James

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                • #9
                  Welcome aboard. I'm curious about where in Arizona you are located. My family has been in the Cochise County area since the 1880s. We might have some mutual acquaintances.
                  John Johnson



                  "I\'m right 98% of the time. Who cares about the other 3%."

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