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**robchant** · 03-27-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by BMW

Robert,

This is what I have sketched out. I will play more tonight with what is in the lounge as it relates to elevation to answer your other questions.

I will also post this sketch online for comments also.

Can not like the gif from work. Must be firewall here. I will upload tonight at home.

Brad, I think it might have been the space in the file name that was causing problems. Here's the file:

**robchant** · 03-27-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by fockewulf37

Here is the extended version of that video:

https://archive.org/details/dollyVardenMine

Second one but not much of the mine:

https://archive.org/details/DollyVardenMine2

Hi Landrel,

Thanks for those links.

Take care,

Rob.

**robchant** · 03-27-2014, 02:01 PM

This is the scenery added to version #5 per Brad's rendering (as close as possible):

**BMW** · 03-28-2014, 04:54 AM

Rob,

Nice. This is looking great. We are heading towards my vision or the Dolly Varden RR, built, run, collapsed. My group comes along in 1927 and purchse's the Dolly Varden RR, lock, stock and barrels.

The Essex Northern Railroad is born.

The model here will be set in September 1929 ....

I will look thru this version on the weekend and comment after I digest it.

Thanks for your effort to date. I am really enjoying the adventure.

**BMW** · 03-28-2014, 09:46 AM

Rob,

Can you send me a DWG of the last version posted?

**robchant** · 03-28-2014, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by BMW

Rob,

Can you send me a DWG of the last version posted?

It should be in your inbox now.

**BMW** · 03-28-2014, 12:18 PM

Rob,

Got it, the only thing strange was the extra lines it creates for slopes, water, trees. These can be controlled easy by isolating and erasing or just freezing the offending layer. Since your program or you added the layers to define things they are available to control. I have it cleaned up and ready to add to the 3D layout. Will review tomorrow and post any comment or requests.

Thanks again.

**BMW** · 03-29-2014, 03:43 PM

Rob,

Some small tweeks to think over;

1/ Coming out of the Alice Arms yard, can you flip the single yard track 180 degrees and then track that passes back thru the town will then be the yard tail.

2/ As the track splits and goes down to the wharf, the high line / main line can be pulled closer to the wharf line as in the separation will be log cribbing, and rock formations. This will leave more behind the main for the worker home scene.

3/ The approach to the ore dock rock work will end across where the truss starts. This will allow a view from the main aisle to and thru the rear of the ore dock. I will screen capture a view of this from the 3D model.

4/ The first industry spur, move the switch from the yard run-around down the line in town and flip the switch 180 degrees. And further down line add in another switch turning inside for another spur.

5/ The location of the line to staging has to be at a specific point to penetrate the wall to clear the staircase support structure. This wall was on the original basement plan. I will pull the dimension, and post with the mark-up.

I have this sketched out. Will scan Monday and post.

Comments?

**robchant** · 03-30-2014, 04:36 AM

Hi Brad,

BM>> 1/ Coming out of the Alice Arms yard, can you flip the single yard track 180 degrees and then track that passes back thru the town will then be the yard tail.

RC>> Done. No issues.

BM>> 2/ As the track splits and goes down to the wharf, the high line / main line can be pulled closer to the wharf line as in the separation will be log cribbing, and rock formations. This will leave more behind the main for the worker home scene.

RC>> Done. Mainline radius reduced to 28" and radius on lead to ore bunker reduced to 26".

BM>> 3/ The approach to the ore dock rock work will end across where the truss starts. This will allow a view from the main aisle to and thru the rear of the ore dock. I will screen capture a view of this from the 3D model.

RC>> Not sure what I have to change, if anything.

BM>> 4/ The first industry spur, move the switch from the yard run-around down the line in town and flip the switch 180 degrees. And further down line add in another switch turning inside for another spur.

RC>> Done with 2 curved turnouts added. Radius on old industry spur reduced to 28". Radius on new industry spur at 27". Radius on mainline between 2 curved turnouts reduced to 26". (The mainline will probably be increased back to 30" radius with hand laid track. I just didn't have the proper curved turnouts in my library.)

BM>> 5/ The location of the line to staging has to be at a specific point to penetrate the wall to clear the staircase support structure. This wall was on the original basement plan. I will pull the dimension, and post with the mark-up.

RC>> Tell me the measurement from inside of the east wall (wall with doorway) and how big of a gap we have to play with.

Take care,

Rob.

**robchant** · 04-01-2014, 05:17 AM

Hi Brad,

Here are the details on this change:

MODIFICATIONS:

- Added curved turnout at high line junction (the high line is now reduced to 24" radius.)

- Move worker's houses and eliminated 2 of them

- Rounded off corner in 4 places on middle peninsula

- Reduced turntable to 9"

- Added 2nd 9" turntable on Wolf Mine shelf

- Adjust shelf width in 2 place along west wall in man cave and at Dolly Varden tipple. (The other shelf in front of the TV was already at 10" wide.)

- Increased corner radius to 36" in front of curved trestle.

- Increased the corner radius at Dolly Varden to 40" to get 18" wide shelf at narrow point.

- Adjusted track leading to staging for 56" clearance under stairs

COMMENTS:

- Is the passing track after Dolly Varden long enough?

- Should we move the passing track to the 10" shelf after tunnel #1? Or add another one?

- Still need to know the ruling grade to Wolf Mine.

- How high do you want the tracks above the base benchwork height you sent?

Take care,

Rob.

**BMW** · 04-01-2014, 01:54 PM

Rob,

-COMMENTS

Reply

- Is the passing track after Dolly Varden long enough?

Looks small. How long is it in the plan now? I was thinking three to three and a half feet. Have the one turnout just in front of the tunnel two, and run it out CCW. Slide the siding for the Dolly Varden mine CCW, and if needed shorten it slightly.

- Should we move the passing track to the 10" shelf after tunnel #1? Or add another one?

No, one is enough.

- Still need to know the ruling grade to Wolf Mine.

The dimensions were to track height. I will check again tomorrow, but I think it was Alice at 50"', Dolly rising to 55", and then rising to shelf at Wolf at 60". Grades to be worked out in

- How high do you want the tracks above the base benchwork height you sent?

Bench work will be designed based on track elevation. I set the nominal thickness to four inches but that will vary depending on how far I can or want to run scene in the vertical. The one at the end of the main aisle will be 35" raising up thru the 55" as the track rises to the Dolly Varden mine.

**BMW** · 04-02-2014, 01:23 PM

Rob,

All the images dropped out, is this on your end or RRLF?

As for the grade issues, I have another option. We can rise from Alice Arms at 50.0" running up to the Dolly Varden mine all the way levelling at 56" to 57". Moving the passing track back towards the mine area and even slightly overlapping the mine and passing track. Then rising the rest of the way to 60.0" at the Wolf mine shelf. I will try and extract from your plan the linear distance and rise to work out the grade. Still looks like the steepest grade will be down to the wharf.

Thoughts?

**robchant** · 04-02-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by BMW

Rob,

All the images dropped out, is this on your end or RRLF?

As for the grade issues, I have another option. We can rise from Alice Arms at 50.0" running up to the Dolly Varden mine all the way levelling at 56" to 57". Moving the passing track back towards the mine area and even slightly overlapping the mine and passing track. Then rising the rest of the way to 60.0" at the Wolf mine shelf. I will try and extract from your plan the linear distance and rise to work out the grade. Still looks like the steepest grade will be down to the wharf.

Thoughts?

Hi Brad,

Just a quick note. We have been dealing with some major snow and ice storms down here since Sunday evening and it ended with worst snow of the season yesterday. Power has been out a few times over the last few days, and somewhere along the line my server took a hit, so the lost images are on my end. I'm not sure if the line going into the building is damaged or the server itself is offline. No one made it into the office today to reboot the server. To top it all off, I was also hit with the flu in the middle of all this as well.

Take care,

Rob.

**BMW** · 04-02-2014, 02:50 PM

Rob,

Just looked up where you live, nice. Drove the Cabot Trail years ago when we went east for a vacation. Looked up the weather news and seen some places took on 350mm of snow, wow. Down here we had a few 15 deg.F days lost all our snow piles and now the threat tonight is snow, ice or rain. Depends on the storm track. This year winter just won't quit.

Hope you feel better soon.

**BMW** · 04-03-2014, 02:59 PM

Robert,

Hope you are feeling better and able to dig out soon.

Marked up the elevations as close as I could measure to from the layout to date. Elevation is to top of rail or tie in inches.

We could raise the incline from the ore dock to dolly varden mine from 5" to 6" increasing this grade. And then decrease the 3" to 2" from dolly varden mine to wolf mine landing.

This will even out the grades to around 2% (see third image below).

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