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    • Thanks Ray,

      I got tied up today and did not get the show the pic' with the bracing on it. I still plan to add a small jib crane to the upper platform. But still need to plane on the placement of a few other things...



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      • Ok The next thing i wanted to do is build a retaining wall for the larger cut in a curve next to the loading dock. I have seen it done many ways. Square timer or round dowels. This was going to be a large area. Cost of dowels would be crazy. Like $30 -$40 worth of dowels.

        the Square timber would be cheapest but I like the round better.

        So I have been making my own foam logs so I decided to try making them a little smaller So I took 1" foam and cut them into 1"x1" by whatever length. I then went back to the 6" belt sander and shaped the foam into 1/2" dowels.. It went pretty well and fast too..






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        • I then took the foam dowels an made and made a temporary tool out of angle aluminum to cut the logs to a scale 12'. I also cut a bunch of short pieces for a cross beam. once they were all cut I wend ahead and painted them all a creosote color in latex paint...






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          • Next i went to the layout and did a little more carving on the large block of foam . I then took a couple pieces of cardboard. I had to bend each corrugation so the cardboard would wrap round the curve. I then traced out the shape and cut to fit.I then cut a few curved strips to the shape of the curved wall. I then glued this to the bottom of the shaped cardboard so it would keep its shape.






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            • OMG, foam dowels, now I've heard of everything.
              Frank

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              • Frank,

                yeah.. just started piddling around and that is what I came up with..

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                • Next I pinned the cardboard piece in place. I started putting the dowels in place using hot glue. the work went pretty fast...








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                  • I then pulled up the cardboard and laid it on its back propping it up to keep its shape. I then went about filling in the spaces with oil dry. To hold the oil dry in place i used thinned white glue with acrylic paint for coloring just like I am doing the ballast...







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                    • Absolutely incredible !

                      Foam logs...what a concept :up:

                      There is always a new way somewhere, and you found it Ty. Cool.
                      Carl

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                      • I'm not clear on just how you could have a vertical wall with that kind of spacing between the timbers. Wouldn't all the rocks fall out onto the ROW? Or is this installed at some kind of angle?

                        Dave
                        Dave Vanderwal

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                        • You know I don't know all about the construction of the prototype. I did some research on this style retaining wall and could not come up with much. But I don't worry about the details sometimes. I saw this used on several other layouts and liked it. I felt it would be a good uses in this area...

                          Tom Millers layout used this type in many places . I talked to Scott Anderson about the wood sizes but not about the prorotypes..




                          The Sundance Central has one similar but I think it is made the natural timber..

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                          • Landrel,

                            Great idea for cribbing!! I like the look and texture of the foam.

                            I don't comment very often however, I follow your layout postings. Always full of new and fresh ideas.

                            Thanks for sharing.

                            Dave
                            Dave

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                            • Thanks Carl and Dave,

                              Once dry I was able to move it with pretty easily. It set in place until secured to the wall. The retaining wall sets below the track line and I will back fill to level the area out.

                              . It is also just a little high so I can make the landscape come up to the back of the wall..




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                              • That certainly is an interesting concept for making dowels.
                                Frank

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