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  • Hey Jeff! Looks like Darryl did a nice job for you, on those tiny windows.

    And you are shaping them around your bottom template very neatly.

    And you've been doing such an expert job with this entire build, that I feel hesitant to suggest that you might have a problem with what your now doing.

    I've been down this bumpy road before, and I feel I should warn you.

    Those little windows that you are gluing around your bottom template, won't have much strength at the top when your completed.

    Meaning... if you try and push down on them they will collapse or worse break.

    How are you planning to attach the next deck above these fragile looking windows?

    So why don't you cut another template out just like the bottom one you have already.

    And use it as a upper inside guide for the windows to follow, like the bottom one.

    You would need to figure out what thickness of strip wood to use between this new top template and the bottom template.

    And just glue as many of those spacer blocks as you need without blocking off any of those little windows.

    So that you end up with a template sandwich with the right sized wood in between the bottom template and the top one.

    That will give you 2 places to glue the windows now, top & bottom plates.

    And give you a strong top to build on.

    Or.... you can now tell me about the better plan you have.

    Greg Shinnie

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    • Thanks for the advice, Greg.

      As you will see with the progress of the build after the windows are assembled there is a support that sits between each set of three windows. That is why I had Darryl cut them as he did. I also have plans for bracing from the inside as you suggest. The deck house goes on top of this yet so I hadn't forgot to plan for the extra weight.

      Jeff

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      • Looks great Jeff. Greg does have a point there but I think he's a little like me in that I always

        want to have extra strength everywhere.

        I am assuming that on the real boat that those windows are actually skylight windows for the deck

        below. If so, don't forget to paint all that inside area black to look empty when completed.

        LOOKING GOOD !!

        Bob
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        • Certainly looks challenging.

          Jeff did you score them at the center of the support post? actual windows wouldn't "curve" around they would go in a series of window pane length straight sections.
          Frank

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          • Thanks Bob and Frank,

            I haven't shown pictures but all decks have had support underneath to prevent sapping and collapse of the walls. No lack of strength there.

            The interiors have all been painted black from the beginning and the windows are frosted to obscure the interior. Another time it would be neat to do an interior.

            When I mentioned using a photoetch bender to bend the windows I did not mean curve. I score between the windows and use the bender by "The Small Shop":



            The end result is not a curved window but as in this photo:



            Also, I use "Kritstal Klear" for the windows. It is a liquid and, as such, dries as a flat pane.

            Jeff

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            • I haven't heard of the photoetch bender but it looks like it does the job. Definitely time to be careful, I hate to say this Jeff but take your time.
              Frank

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              • Wow- that's some delicate bending Jeff! [:-hypnotized]

                Hey, whatever works...
                Carl

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                • Thanks guys.

                  It is a delicate job that is why I am using the bender. It was designed for bending the photoetch that scale modellers use for aircraft, armour and ships.

                  Here's how it works:

                  Using a straight edge, I lightly scribe a fold line onto the front face of the window set (not sure if you can see it):



                  The knobs on either end of the tool hold the "fingers" of the tool firmly to the plate. Springs between the plate and the fingers push them away from the plate when the knobs are loosened. The part is carefully positioned for the first fold and the razor blade is carefully slid between the part and the plate for the first fold:



                  The first fold is then made using the razor blade:



                  The part is then repositioned for the second fold and the second fold is made:






                  Voila! The finished piece:



                  Jeff

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                  • You're going to be a while. I'll check back later, much later.
                    Frank

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                    • Yes, Frank. It seems it has been a while. I have made some progress though.

                      The first task was to install the windows:



                      I then had the task of installing the window panes. To do this I used Kristal Klear:



                      The completed set of windows then had another deck level on top:



                      The final structure on this deck is the pilot house. I have it nearly complete. Tonight I finished the interior and took a few photos which will follow.

                      Jeff

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                      • I'm so happy you are back working on this classic.

                        Bob
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                        • Jeff, glad to see this thread is back!

                          Great work with all of those tiny windows.

                          Looking forward to seeing the pilot house get installed, it's kinda like the cherry on top.

                          Greg Shinnie

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                          • Well that does it. Your skill and patience has paid off yet again. This is just amazing. :up: :up:
                            Frank

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                            • Thanks Bob, Greg, and Frank.

                              The pilot house if nearly finished. The inside of the bridge will be visible so I added some details to the interior:



                              The bridge needs to have someone controlling the boat:







                              Here's how he looks through the windows:



                              Here's how the pilot house looks sitting on the upper deck:



                              Once I finish this and permanently mount it, it's on to the details.

                              Jeff

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                              • Truly exceptional work Jeff. I am particularly taken by your railings. Were the posts glued directly to the deck and what did you use as a guideline?

                                Can't wait to see her afloat at her permanent mooring.

                                John

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