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  • Two twenty foot layouts.

    I wasn't sure what to call this new thread so this will have to do.

    If you have read of the demise of the big layout I was planning to build of Grass Valley you will know that sitting in my gargae are 40' of baseboards, ten boards 4' long by 2' 6" wide.

    The idea now is to build two smaller On30 layouts that can be transported in two cars rather than needing a hire van. One will still be called Grass Valley (it's too late to change the name as it's booked into an exhibition in August under that name, will still be located in the California high country and will represent the Laurel County railroad.

    The second will be deliberately totally different, as I don't want to take them out together....to do that would be back to a 40' long layout and van hire again! I like the idea of something along the lines of Muskrat Ramble, but with more operating interest and bigger engines.

    Here are my initial musings;



    The only part of the old Grass Valley to survive is the trestle as I like it and it will get away from the whole layout looking flat. It's just a simple terminus, but I think it has enough interest to keep me thinking over two days of operating. It doesn't really need the turntable but in my experience visitors to exhibitions like to see them; it will also save me having to change the front couplers on the Broadway Limited C16's.I will probably add more buildings as I like making them. The layout needs to be finished for the first weekend in August.Everything I've done so far will have to be removed from the boards so I can start again from scratch; I looked at using the two boards I've done but it won't work.



    The name 'Cajun Landing' may not last but it will do until I come up with something better. I won't start work on this layout until the first one is finished so there's more time for planning, and I'll take longer building it too.

    The idea is for a terminus alongside a creek in Louisiana, with the front line on piles as a jetty. There will be several buildings....certainly a blues bar with music playing quietly in the background, perhaps a Bordello...I see this layout as more of a fun thing, I'm not so concerend with doing things correctly. The loco's and stock will be the same of course which is why it's important for the setting to look totally different.

    These are my first ideas; Grass Valley won't change much as I've only got seven months to build it and I need to get on with things. Cajun Landing might end up nothing like what I've drawn, but that's part of the fun.

    It should be possible to use the same traverser with each layout which means I've only used 9 of the 10 basebords, but I'm holding back on planning for that in case each layout needs a separate traverser. The tracks on the Cajun layout will be raised a couple of inces above board level as the board will be the surface of the creek.

    I'm glad now that I've made the decision to do things this way; I'm able to use more imagination as copying a real place can be pretty stiffling. Now I can do whatever I please.

    Peter

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    I've cleaned pretty much everything off the three baseboards I'm going to use for my new station, put some new board on top of the old underlay and laid out the track loosly just to see how well it all fits. I think the switches at the left hand end need moving out as far as possible to make the loops longer, which will mean using the trestle as a headshunt. Other than that it fits in pretty well. I've added one more siding so that I can include the blacksmiths shop I built for the original layout; as there isn't room for a car shop now, repairs will have to be done out in the fresh air!






    I'm going to spend some time this week laying track after having had a long period not doing anything very productive, and now that I can have the whole station up in the garage at the same time there is no excuse for not getting all the track down and working well before I get distracted by scenery and buildings.

    Peter

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    • #3
      Looks like you've got a good plan, look forward to your progress.

      Mark
      W,L,&E

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      • #4
        Things have moved on; I've laid a lot of the track but I can't finish it until three more switches arrive. I've been able to run a loco along all the lines that are laid though, very satisfying indeed. I love the fact that I can put up the whole station in the garage.

        I've put in the turntable to make sure it was going to fit OK; it uses the deck I built in the Autumn with a new well and pivot. It's just going to be hand operated, I'm going for the easy life. I had to begin work on the depot building to make sure there was enough clearance for the trains; as it is the back siding will have to be moved over a little. It's only a tiny depot but it's still a big model! The only other significant building will be a two stall engine house.













        Peter

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        • #5
          Peter, I like this new smaller layout you're working on and you're making quick progress.

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          • #6
            Rick, it's back to being fun again! It's funny how sometimes you can be pushed by circumstances into making a decision about something and it turns out to have been the best thing you could do. I can use my imagination on this layout, it will be finished in a reasonable time and I'll be able to play with it at home. That's all the boxes ticked![:-spin]

            Peter

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            • #7
              I've finished the depot building now; it's too cold to work on the layout so I've been doing this instead. It can stay warm in the house until all the track is down! The whole model is plastic card, with printed paper shingles on the roof.












              The inspiration for the depot came from a kit I saw on the internet; I just downloaded the picture, I can't remember anything about it. Hopefully it doesn't look too out of place in California.

              The picnic poster was scanned from the book on the Nevada County - I love details like that. The etched brass weather vane is by the British firm Scalelink; they do all sorts of useful items like this.

              Peter

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              • #8
                Over the last week I've built the engine house and the water tank, again with a plastic shell covered in printed papers.













                That might not be the final position for the water tank, I just stood it there while I took the pictures. I had to be quick - it's snowing and well below freezing here so I didn't want to linger!

                I've ordered some self adhesive vinyl backdrops from Backdrop Junction which should arrive fairly soon, and I won't do much more until I have them in place.

                Peter

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                • #9
                  I like the look of that already! The photographic backdrops are already adding a scene for the layout to site it.
                  Built a waterfront HO layout in Ireland http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22161 but now making a start in On30 in Australia http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=52273

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                  • #10
                    Peter you have made some great progress. I really like the look of the station. Can you tell us a bit more of the printed paper over plastic shell technique?
                    Chuck Faist

                    Burlington, Ontario

                    Enjoy yourself it is later than you think!

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                    • #11
                      I have to be a bit careful Chuck as I produce the printed sheets myself and I don't want to be accused of using the Forum to push my products. However, they were reviewed in the Sep/Oct Gazette for those that are interested.

                      I make up the shell of the building from 1mm or 2mm plastic card, or in the case of the engine house the whole side was a rectangle of 3mm thick clear polystyrene sheet. I construct the doors & windows on this using plastic strip flat on the work bench, then assemble the building shell (without the roof) before cladding it with the printed paper. This can be brick, stone, planking, you name it. I stick it on with tube adhesive. The only things I have found that are unsuitable are rough stone walls that need the texture, and thatched roofs. Although the paper is flat, because the image is a photograph of a real surface there are shadows so it looks three dimensional.

                      Once the walls are done - inside as well for the engine house, with quarter inch strip wood for the framing, the roof can be added which I also cover with printed paper, in this case mossy shingles. The guttering is U shaped Plastruct, and the chimneys are lengths of stripwood covered in the paper - quick & easy. The doors are rectangles of 2mm plastic covered in the paper, then the framing was added from strips of plastic and covered in the same way. The smoke staining was black weathering powder.

                      I give the building a spray with Dullcote as the paper has a slight sheen.

                      Models built like this are never going to win prizes, but that's fine because I have no intention of entering any competitions. I want a reasonable looking layout that I can finish in a fairly short time and this technique works for me.

                      Peter

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                      • #12
                        Very nice structures Peter. I love how the tracks to the gallows TT almost disappear into the grass.
                        Arthur

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                        • #13
                          :up:

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                          • #14
                            I've still got to clean up the track there Arthur but I've been waiting for the glue on the ballast and grass to really harden off - it's not the right time of year to be doing that job. I'm away at the weekend but if it warms up a little next week I'll get the track there looking nice and shiny. The three switches I need to finish things off came today, now I just need some decent weather...at the moment we've got 6" of lying snow and more falling so the garage isn't very appealing.

                            Peter

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                            • #15
                              I've braved the cold to lay the last three switches and complete the track layout; though it's not all wired up yet I can run a loco the full length of the station now.















                              The track to the engine house running in front of the depot building isn't ideal but unless I have a really tiny building there's nowhere else to put it, so I can live with it. I want a two road engine house as it is somewhere to store loco's yet keep them in view.

                              Peter

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