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  • #61
    Bill,

    Great pictures keep posting them.

    Matt,

    Nice castings.

    Has anyone emailed Palmetto Brick to see if they have any information? I am an hours drive away. If they are friendly I could take a little trip.

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    • #62
      The September/October 2000 issue of Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette contains the article: Dixie's Last Two Narrow Gauges. It covers The Blue Ridge Talc Company Railroad and The Palmetto Brick Company Railroad.

      It would be quicker to telephone the PBRR office and ask if the railroad is running. I read that business has been slow and the railroad was last run for the Narrow Gauge National Convention in 2011.

      Three published articles and the internet provides plenty of info on the PBRR. Time to start modeling.


      Matt

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      • #63
        Matt,

        I was not looking for a running schedule, construction is still at a crawl in NC. I was hoping someone there would be willing to let me on the grounds to measure and take better pictures. Even if it is the weekend security guard bribed by coffee and bakery goods or pulled pork. :-)

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        • #64
          Measurements and photos would certainly be helpful.

          I searched the net and located a fellow that posted measurements of the box on an old dual dump wood car. The width is 90". The RMC article has an end view of a Palmetto car in the dump house. Judging by that photo, my model car is a bit too narrow at 6'9". I would make the next batch of cars at 7'6" overall width.

          Here's the link to the discussion and his photos:

          http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/...=80685&start=0

          Another possible source of info:

          Train Shed Cyclopedia #26 Railway Service Cars 1928-1943

          Even though PBC rebuilt their dump cars, the car manufacturer catalog might be helpful but it would be a bit pricey on eBay.

          Matt

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          • #65
            Matt,

            Thanks for the link to home Machinist. Something I'm not but there are always great stuff on those sites.

            I'll read the info later today.

            I tried but couldn't get the Western Wheel Scraper Catalog to download. Do you have it or a better link?

            Were the steel cars on the PBC built on the standard frame rebuilt wooden cars?

            Did PBC build the solid frame cars in their shop as I have only seen that style on PBC?

            BILL

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            • #66
              Just when I thought I had picture loading down I'm now getting this error massage

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              What up with this?

              BILL

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              • #67
                quote:

                Originally posted by the arkansas traveler

                Matt,

                I tried but couldn't get the Western Wheel Scraper Catalog to download. Do you have it or a better link?

                Were the steel cars on the PBC built on the standard frame rebuilt wooden cars?

                Did PBC build the solid frame cars in their shop as I have only seen that style on PBC?

                BILL

                Bill,

                Sorry, but I don't have a copy of the WWS catalog.

                The published articles are the only info I have on the dump cars. The wood dump boxes took a beating so they were replaced with steel. The chassis might be original. No idea on the history of solid frames...though they are a bit easier to model!

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                • #68
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                  • #69
                    I learned the following about the original Western Wheeled Scraper 5 yard, 3' gauge, dump cars:

                    Bed, interior: 9'x6'9"x2'2"

                    Height of car, overall: 5' 11 1/2"

                    Width of car, overall: 8'

                    Length of car, overall: 12'

                    Truck wheelbase: 4'2"

                    Height from rail to center of drawbar: 23 1/2"

                    Wheels: 20" diameter, 24" option

                    Journals: 3 1/4" x 6 1/4" inches with collar

                    Weight: ~6,900 lbs.

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                    • #70
                      Matt,

                      I have been saving every picture of your model It is really coming along well. Your casting of the pivots look good. For what it is worth I have a home made spin casting machine. However I haven't used it in years maybe I need to break it out. If we had patterns we could spin some parts for the side dumps.

                      BILL

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                      • #71
                        Bill,

                        Thanks. I built the boxes nearly two years ago. I started to resin cast the solid sideframes but hit a few roadblocks and the entire project stalled.

                        I purchased a pressure pot and will give casting another try this fall/winter when the humidity in my basement drops. Otherwise, I could make a few masters and you could try spin casting.

                        I started scratchbuilding one of the Plymouth locos...I'll post photos of it later...when I locate the model.

                        Mattid="Comic Sans MS">

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                        • #72
                          Hi Guys,

                          OK here are some pictures of engine #1946 over the years. I really like the view with the plow thing. Not sure what it was for. I doubt snow removal in SC. Anyone know?







                          Also a picture of 1939 in this set. note that the hood is removed.




                          Finally a couple for our car builder Matt



                          Matt what coupler are you planning to use?



                          BILL

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                          • #73


                            Bill,

                            The purpose of the plow attachment is mentioned in the RMC article.

                            RE: couplers. Try an internet search on: O scale link and pin couplers

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                            • #74
                              Matt,

                              OK I got to get the RMC article out and read it again.

                              I have L&P coupler I was wondering if you were going to use them on your cars.

                              BILL

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                              • #75
                                Grandt line makes Link and Pin couplers that work great.

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