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    Has anyone here built one of the BTS EBT #12 kits? There aren't a ton of photos on their site. I'm thinking about buying one and just wanted to hear from someone who built one.
    Phil Light

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    I haven't, Phil...a bit out of my price range. Sure do wish I could get one, though. [:-dopey] In order to get any kind of afforable Sn3 steam, I may hafta get an ol' PFM or Overland RTR loco and re-detail it for an Eastern look.

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    • #3
      Russ most of the Bachmann On30 locos are undersized and not that far off from S scale, can you not adapt/alter any of them?

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Tyson Rayles


        Russ most of the Bachmann On30 locos are undersized and not that far off from S scale, can you not adapt/alter any of them?


        What I'm looking for is mainline steam. The EBT No. 12 is a Baldwin-built 2-8-2 narrow gauge mike that is just a gem...nothing like it in On30. Here's #14 posing for me some years ago.




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        • #5
          I actually think the price on the BTS kit is a bargain considering you can't buy one of these in any scale for less than $1,000 except when an old Hallmark HOn3 model shows up and even then they're in the $600+ range. Seems if you want to model the EBT you either buy the uber expensive 1:20.3 model or buy the BTS kit. It's a shame the Old Eastie isn't better represented in the hobby.

          I took this video of #15 a few weeks ago.

          http://youtu.be/9UPnnC_psIg?hd=1
          Phil Light

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          • #6


            quote:


            Originally posted by NGPhil


            It's a shame the Old Eastie isn't better represented in the hobby.




            You're right about that, Phil. There seems to be this attitude that Sn3 is for modeling the D&RGW only with very little offerings for anyone else's interests. This has had the net effect of limiting the scale's appeal and that's really not only unfortunate, but, to me, a disservice to the hobby. In a conversation that I had with a predominant Sn3 manufacturer, the attitude is that there is little or no interest in any other prototype models except D&RGW/RGSin Sn3. Who did they survey? Their own current customers?? What a sad state Sn3 is in now. [!] It seems as if the scale has been hi-jacked by one manufacturer and their own narrow modeling interest. I feel that Sn3 is absolutely a perfect scale to model in for narrow gauge and the only thing that has kept it from really taking off is affordable generic steam loco and non-Colorado rolling stock models. No one seems to want to take the lead. Funaro & Camerlengo had some of the EBT steel boxcar kits available at the Springfield, MA train show last winter and, from what I recall, F&C used to produce the kits originally for BTS. The EBT hopper and caboose would make great models for any non-Colorado layout! Right now, Railmaster Hobbies has a ET&WNC 2-8-0 kit for 500.00 in cast pewter. I don't know anything about the quality of the running gear, but this one is on my short list. Here's a link to the loco on Railmaster's website...

            http://railmasterhobbies.com/images%20Sn3/Tweetsie1.jpg

            My favorite is the WP&Y mike...it has that heavy mainline steam look in a narrow gauge profile. The kit is 575.00 and I am considering that one, too...

            http://railmasterhobbies.com/images%20Sn3/73%20DS.jpg

            We need more variety in the Sn3 hobby! [:-bigmouth]

            Russ id="Comic Sans MS">id="navy">

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            • #7
              Same for HOn3 really. MMI and Blackstone have only produced D&RGW items. Now BS has HOn3 EBT hoppers up for reservation which is totally strange in my opinion. There hasn't been an EBT locomotive in HOn3 since the Hallmark models. There are very few of them out there. Why would I buy HOn3 EBT hoppers for $50 each if I have nothing to pull them with?

              I'm not even an Sn3 modeler but the BTS EBT 12 kit is tempting me to get involved. I've got a lot of HOn3 stuff now though (including D&RGW k-27's and c-19's etc.) so it's tough to think about switching. I may buy the EBT kit from BTS just to build it. It would make a nice, albeit expensive shelf model.

              The odd thing with the Railmaster ET&WNC 2-8-0 is when you click the first link on their site it shows the 4-6-0. The other photos of the 2-8-0's look decent. The nice thing with those kits (never seen one in person) is they come with a RTR mechanism. That takes the hard part out of building and leaves all the fun stuff IMO.

              I've ended up in a strange place in the hobby. My real joy is building locomotives. I've almost given up on tackling a layout project and resigned to the idea of building locomotives is as much fun for me than laying track and even running them. I think I'm okay with that. Just a little background on why I'm posting here w/out really being involved in the Sn3 side of things.
              Phil Light

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              • #8
                quote:


                Originally posted by NGPhil


                .... Now BS has HOn3 EBT hoppers up for reservation which is totally strange in my opinion. There hasn't been an EBT locomotive in HOn3 since the Hallmark models. There are very few of them out there. Why would I buy HOn3 EBT hoppers for $50 each if I have nothing to pull them with?

                I'm not even an Sn3 modeler but the BTS EBT 12 kit is tempting me to get involved. I've got a lot of HOn3 stuff now though (including D&RGW k-27's and c-19's etc.) so it's tough to think about switching. I may buy the EBT kit from BTS just to build it. It would make a nice, albeit expensive shelf model.

                I've ended up in a strange place in the hobby. My real joy is building locomotives. I've almost given up on tackling a layout project and resigned to the idea of building locomotives is as much fun for me than laying track and even running them. I think I'm okay with that. Just a little background on why I'm posting here w/out really being involved in the Sn3 side of things.


                Not so much a strange place as it is shared by others... mea culpea.

                I have a bunch of HOn3 stuff; logging, D&RGW and EBT. Have a big bunch of hoppers on order but also have a handful of the Hallmark locos, a Tweensie ten wheeler and a couple of D&RGW locos. I'm into a freelance HOn3 and the EBT reminds me more of the locos I grew up with on the 3'6" Queensland Railway system.

                So lots of good reasons to buy those hoppers for whatever you like. Plus there is every chance BS may bring out an inside frame mike like na EBT a few years down the track. Keep pushing the story to their surveys and follow through with buying what you nominate for.

                As for Sn3.. That's something else that's a real treat. I recently succumbed to buying a Heisler #3 and Shay #2. The bulk, weight and visibility of the units is really beautiful. Some of the HOn3 stuff is almost toylike in detail compared with what you can do in Sn3. And it does not take up so much room as O scale.

                So enjoy the differences. You can do different things with them. Eventually you'll settle or change more while having had fun along the way.

                Life is but a journey. Enjoy.

                The destination surely sucks.

                Cheers

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                • #9
                  I figured I wasn't alone. I got out of N scale to switch to Hon3 because I was frustrated with the level of detail in N. I love Hon3 and I'm a lot lest frustrated with the LOD but now Sn3 is attractive for the same thing! Next thing I know I'll be looking at Fn3! If a layout/space isn't a concern then anything is possible I guess.

                  If I buy one of the BTS kits I'll have to do a build log on it. It's interesting that those kits are made in New Zealand. I honestly don't understand why NZ, Austrailia and the UK are so good at making pewter/brass kits and nobody in the US does. I strongly believe that part of the US's economical situation stems from the preconceived misconception that if you want to bring a product to market, you've got to go through China. Obviously, the rest of the world knows there are other ways to produce things.
                  Phil Light

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