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  • Hi guys.

    Sorry for the gap in posts. I've been busy with my landscaping project and thus struggling to find time for modelling. Today, with the temperature struggling to get near double digits (that's 50F), I gave myself the day to work on my benchwork. Hopefully tomorrow I will give things another nudge, as again we are expecting cold weather - and it will be Sunday.

    Today I managed to get the next ceiling section finished and installed. This is 2/3's of the ceiling above the long module against the back wall. I decided to do this ceiling in two sections for several reasons. Firstly, I thought my chances of getting a long piece with a curve at both the back and front, along with the correct positioning of all the 'fins', were slim to none. I also decided I would have no chance of lifting up and into position (twice - once to check fit and make adjustments, and once to glue and screw) a ceiling section this long on my own and would need at least two people to help me. By splitting the ceiling into 2/3's and 1/3, I was able to keep the longest section with a straight back, and the shorter section with the curved back, which will no doubt need some extra tweaking, will be much smaller, lighter, and easier to maneuver on my own.

    Photo 1 - shows the 2/3 ceiling section on the floor ready for 'fitting' after lunch. I marked all the nail positions on the underside of the ceiling section and then drilled and added two screws from the ribbon board to the 45x19 attached to the sides of the fins. I then lent the ceiling section on my saw horses and drilled and screwed one screw up from underneath, through the 16mm MDF into the jack studs at front. This meant everything was all perfectly lined up. I then undid all these screws, laid the ceiling section flat, added glue and then, working as quickly as possible, added all the screws previously fitted. I then flipped the whole section upside down and added the 19mm brads. Lunchtime followed this, giving the glue time to set up.
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    Photo 2 - After my first fitting I discovered I had forgotten to cut out the top notches in the back of the fins for the top plate. I had to remove the section and tack it back into the other room where I marked and cut out all those notches with my skill saw before refitting. I then discovered I needed to tweak the ceiling join. I rigged up a strait edge as a guide for my skill saw, clamped the ceiling piece into position and then tried to carefully run my skill saw along the guide to the outside edge of the ceiling, including through the 16mm MDF curved frontage. Of course I had to use my skill saw upside down. Not my favourite job! At the very least you get covered in sawdust! Its also very easy for the saw to 'bite' and cause all sorts of damage. After this exercise I tightened the clamps and marked a few spots for tidying up. I then removed the ceiling piece again, tidied up the edge with my hand plane, and then applied glue to the studs for the ribbon board and fins. The piece was then lifted in one last time, screws added, skewed through the ribbon board to the studs, and two screws added attaching each fin to each stud. Finally I drilled holes between the two sections and added coach bolts.
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    Photo 3 - Here is a view from the top of the ladder. The ladder is too big to fit between the centre of the two opposing ceiling pieces, so I had to take it down and move it to both ends and lean in and to the side for the drilling and screwing to the studs.
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    Photo 4 - Here is a close up of the join. You can see where I have drilled out a section to give access to the coach bolt.
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    Photo 5 - And finally another close up showing the three coach bolts.
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    I laid this ceiling piece and the next ceiling piece together on the benchwork, before adding the fins, so I could mark and cut out the front and back curves while ensuring the join between the two ceiling sections was nice and square. This next ceiling piece is cut out ready to go. Tomorrow I will cut out the two curved top and bottom front plates and start work on the fins. It would be nice to get far enough through to get this piece finished and installed - but I know there is still a lot of work to do so we will see...

    More soon, cheers, Mark.

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    • Hi guys.

      Well - I achieved todays objective. It did take all day, but I finished in time to get a rolled roast lamb in the oven for dinner.

      Photo 1 - shows the ceiling sub assembly on the floor. You can see I had to do a bit of a thing to get fixing at the back. I keep the fins all parallel and at right angles to the back ribbon board. I then use my bevel to obtain the correct angle for the front jack studs, set up the skill saw to that angle, and using the guide rip timber to that angle. I then cut it to length on my drop saw. The process is pretty set in my head now, and apart from minor tweaking, I haven't had a major problem for some time. Long my it last...
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      Photo 2 - Shows the subassembly glued and screwed in position. The clamp is holding the seam straight while the glue dries on my splice (there is a piece of 45x19mm timber on its edge joining the two sections - on the inside of the top plate). I had to lift this piece in and out several times, making minor adjustments to fit. I'm very pleased I decided to do this module ceiling in two pieces - it would have been a dog to have done it in one go!
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      More soon, cheers, Mark.

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      • Mark

        You are once again moving right along. Your wood working skills are really coming in handy. I have done a lot of big projects working alone and I can see the evidence of your Engineering skills with all the lifting, holding, and clamping, so you can get the glue and screws in place without things moving on you. You are making great progress, especially with all the landscaping projects you are working on at the same time. Keep up the great work - I will be following along and using your progress to motivate my work.

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        • Looks fantastic, Mark. That's precision work for sure.

          Landscaping. . . hmm. Right now I'm looking at a shrub that needs to go in the ground; I should start preparing the site before rain comes.

          Mike
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          Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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          • You are once again moving right along. Your wood working skills are really coming in handy. I have done a lot of big projects working alone and I can see the evidence of your Engineering skills with all the lifting, holding, and clamping, so you can get the glue and screws in place without things moving on you. You are making great progress, especially with all the landscaping projects you are working on at the same time. Keep up the great work - I will be following along and using your progress to motivate my work.
            Thanks, John.

            Its frigging cold out there today! I see the temperature is just a few degrees above freezing. I have kept the framing of the dummy wall (complete with insulation) in front of the roller door until further through this project to allow myself the benefit of opening up the roller door for both better light and more room. That very flimsy aluminum door doesn't provide much of a barrier to the temperature outside - especially when we have now had several days in a row of very low daily highs - with 10 or more cold days to follow!

            It felt good to get a burst done over the weekend. I've often thought that instead of a time machine, how good I time zone jumper would be. I could have my weekend here and then jump to Hawaii's time zone to gain almost another full day, and then jump right into Tuesday!

            Cheers, Mark.

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            • Looks fantastic, Mark. That's precision work for sure.

              Landscaping. . . hmm. Right now I'm looking at a shrub that needs to go in the ground; I should start preparing the site before rain comes.
              Thanks, Mike.

              I got the 3mm MDF ceiling piece for the short ceiling at the end of the long section in Tellynott cut out this morning. That is the 4' long piece above the flotation mill. It was a bit of a process to get the piece of 3mm MDF in a position where I could mark out the front curve - lots of spacers and a couple of clamps. After I had cut to shape with my jigsaw I was able to test fit (as the piece was small enough to maneuver without the fins added. I needed to cut the seam where it met the existing ceiling piece from 0mm to 2mm, from the backdrop to the outside edge. A couple of clamps clamping my level in position at the correct offset and I got a pretty sweet seam. Much easier than using the skill saw upside down an attempting to do this in position like last time! (BTW - I did manage a pretty good seam the last time, too. Its just very awkward to do, hard to see what you are doing, and easy to make thigs worse rather than better.)

              Cheers, Mark.

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              • Hi guys.

                Well - I've made it to the threshold, with the exception of a few finishing bits.

                Photo 1 - This shot is looking back across to Tellynott. The straight piece of 45x19mm timber running diagonally is the wall separating Tellynott from Shadowlands. All of the ceiling shown here on either side of this wall is double sided - as in the studs have a backdrop on either side - one for Shadowlands and one for Tellynott, and the two ceilings are attached to the same studs. At the left end (out of shot) is where the two worlds are separate pieces, with a 10mm gap between them.
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                Photo 2 - Here are the two sides of Shadowlands meeting the threshold.
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                Photo 3 - And here is a view back the other way. You can see there is a slight difference in height between the two sides. My levels tell me the benchwork is level, but logic tells me it can't be. The fix is easy - just lift each section slightly and add slithers under the wheels/ legs. But in order to get this right I will need a laser level. I still have to decide whether I care enough to bother with the fix. I doubt anyone will notice unless I point it out. When joining this last ceiling piece I discovered a major kink in the curve. I had to re-mark about 4" each side of the join and re-cut with my jigsaw, top and bottom. Again - using the jigsaw upside down was challenging, but success ensued. I used the planner to straighten the jack studs. I had to tickle up the lower join as well. All bolted, glued and screwed and ready for the next section.
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                More soon, cheers, Mark.

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                • Mark,
                  Great job on those ceiling sections! Great planning and execution.

                  Scott

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                  • Great job on those ceiling sections! Great planning and execution.
                    Thanks very much, Scott.

                    I've been chipping away at the ceiling section over the first module I built. Its pretty big, so I'm doing it in two sections. Its just been so cold out in the barn that I haven't made decent progress. I'll have to tough it out soon!

                    Cheers, Mark.

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                    • Hi guys.

                      Well, we had a 2fatpossums weekend this last weekend in my garage. Trevor and Barry joined me for dinner and modelling on the Friday night, and then Craig and Neil joined the rest of us on the Saturday and Sunday. It was a great weekend with lots of laughs and some good modelling to boot. On the Saturday night we all went to Neil's house to look at the progress he has made on his 1:34 'Cape to Kairo' layout.

                      Photo 1 - As you can see, my garage transforms into a nice modelling space for the five of us. Plenty of room to spread out! Barry even brought his lathe!
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                      Photo 2 - the 2fatpossums modelling group. Barry, me, Craig, Trevor and Neil.
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                      Photo 3 - and here is the maestro (Neil) in front of his masterpiece (The Cape to Kairo)
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                      Photo 4 - the little engine shed was one of Neil's last builds. Mostly built and weathered during our Thursday afternoon modelling sessions.
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                      Photo 5 - As per usual, I started a new project over the weekend. I find having such a long, sustained period of modelling a great opportunity to get my teeth into a new project. I choose to get stuck into my Layflatte Linoleum Company scratchbuild. I did a mock-up for this last August and uploaded some pictures to this thread. Here are the weatherboard walls cut out and the openings removed. It got my weathering treatment done this afternoon - after firstly bracing those skinny walls with the openings in them! I don't have much Floquil grime left, and have found Golden's titan buff to be a good watercolour replacement, but with those fragile pieces I decided to use enamels and dip into my last bottle of grime.
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                      Photo 6 - and here is the other part of the structure. I used 1mm styrene for the main walls, base and top and then used 4.8mm strip and corner styrene to make up the columns and horizontal pieces. Gaps were filled with putty and sanded. I cut an opening in the bottom of the elevator shaft and added a door. I had to find a short one to fit with the design of the building. I added trim to the sides.
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                      I made up the trapezium prism using 1mm styrene. I added 1mm styrene to a timber former, leaving the timber shorter than the styrene for the row of stacks. I then added 2mm corner pieces to the corners. These have been left uniformally long to create posts which will hold the roof pieces on. There are two of these to do - 12 stacks in all.
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                      Photo 8 - and here is the first one in position. The back section is suspended across one of Tellynott's small roads.
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                      More soon, cheers, Mark.

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                      • Seems to be a very nice week-end.
                        Maybe you could convince Neil to open a thread on this forum to let us discover his layout
                        Eric

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                        • Mark, that's an amazing garage you have there.
                          I second Eric's request for a thread on Neil's layout.
                          Interesting scratch build you've started.
                          Follow along as my dog and I travel the country in our van.
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                          • Mark,

                            That was a varied and wide-ranging post. Lots to look at. Sounds like a fun and productive weekend. I enjoyed seeing bits of your friend's layout. Very nice.

                            Your new structure is intriguing. Seems like you have at least one other structure under construction, or did I miss something?

                            Mike
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                            Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                            • Mark, Like Mike said, that's a wide ranging post! Lots of things to see and appreciate. It boggles my brain to see all you've planned and accomplished.

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                              • That looks like a great weekend gathering, Mark. Those jackets and sweatshirts had me confused for a minute. Then I remembered where you guys aren't dealing with mid 80° (30° C) temperatures.
                                Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man. Landing is the first.

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