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  • Your benchwork looks fantastic.
    Thanks, John.

    I'm having lots of fun. You'll have a whole volume to upload when the other site finally gets up and running again! I've been checking in every so often, but no activity yet. I have noticed that the photos from my earlier threads have disappeared. Hopefully they will come back when all the bugs are ironed out...

    Thanks for checking in, and feel free to drop me an email with some progress photos if you feel so inclined.

    Cheers, Mark.

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    • Mark,

      You're a good planner. I assume you're considering where to place buildings in regard to where sections can break apart. Am I understanding things right?

      I've been thinking of writing instructions as to how to break down my layout when the time comes. I generally tried not to place turnouts over joints between my sections but sometimes I forgot or it was unavoidable.

      I like the looks of the MDF.

      Mike
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      • You're a good planner. I assume you're considering where to place buildings in regard to where sections can break apart. Am I understanding things right?

        I've been thinking of writing instructions as to how to break down my layout when the time comes. I generally tried not to place turnouts over joints between my sections but sometimes I forgot or it was unavoidable.

        I like the looks of the MDF.
        Thanks, Mike.

        Yes - I have shunted the flotation mill about 50mm to the left so that it is not over a module join and am working on the positioning of the turnout leading to the mine, making sure it is not over the second join. This section is the end of a long section of Tellynott and is only 1180mm (46 1/2") across. I could fit a turnout in and get a nice configuration to the mill on the same module section, but this left no room for a poppet head where I intend to put one. Instead I will put the turnout to the left of this second join. As I move further through with Shadowlands I would imaging the positioning of some of the large bridges will be the most difficult to get avoiding the module joins. I would expect to have to build some of these removable.

        Medium density fiberboard. There is a place not too far away which sells cover sheets for a fraction of the new price. Some have corners missing or strop marks, but are generally like new. They have thousands of these sheets in all the different thicknesses. I do buy them new occasionally - when I want an extra nice piece for a backdrop or ceiling. I generally use 3mm, 4.5mm and 16mm. I also bought 50 half sheets of 2.5mm MDF, 2400mm x 600mm a while back for $1 a sheet. These have been very handy, and I intend to use many of them for the fascia and pelmets.

        Thanks for your continued interest, cheers, Mark

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        • Mark, another option, if locating a building over a seam in the frame is the best spot for it visually, could be to build the structure on a separate base that can simply lift out if the layout sections need to be separated. I have seen photos of nice layouts that have removal scenes to either change era or just switch some buildings for variety.
          Last edited by Bill_Gill; 03-13-2022, 05:55 PM.

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          • Although I dont stop in here very often it is always a pleasure to skip back about ten pages after some time away and catch up with what you have been doing so well.
            The benchwork, carpentry and precision of it's construction all have me looking in admiration.
            Whether it is in miniature or 1:1 your skills are always impressive and an inspiration.
            Thanks for posting all your updates.

            Karl. A

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            • Mark, another option, if locating a building over a seam in the frame is the best spot for it visually, could be to build the structure on a separate base that can simply lift out if the layout sections need to be separated. I have seen photos of nice layouts that have removal scenes to either change era or just switch some buildings for variety.
              Thanks for that suggestion, Bill.

              I remember Kathy Millett doing a SRM build which was removable so it could be replaced with another SRM diorama from time to time.

              Cheers, Mark.

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              • Although I dont stop in here very often it is always a pleasure to skip back about ten pages after some time away and catch up with what you have been doing so well.
                The benchwork, carpentry and precision of it's construction all have me looking in admiration.
                Whether it is in miniature or 1:1 your skills are always impressive and an inspiration.
                Thanks for posting all your updates.
                You're too kind, Karl!

                Thanks for taking the time to look in on my progress and thanks you for your words of encouragement. Its great to be able to share my journey with friends from all over the globe.

                Cheers, Mark.

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                • Originally posted by mark_dalrymple View Post

                  Thanks, John.

                  I'm having lots of fun. You'll have a whole volume to upload when the other site finally gets up and running again! I've been checking in every so often, but no activity yet. I have noticed that the photos from my earlier threads have disappeared. Hopefully they will come back when all the bugs are ironed out...

                  Thanks for checking in, and feel free to drop me an email with some progress photos if you feel so inclined.

                  Cheers, Mark.
                  Mark

                  I'm starting to post again on the other site and plan on starting a thread on this site in the near future. These forums really go through some pain when they switch software platforms. I learned my lesson about only posting in one place. There seems to be a number of members that post on both sites so I'm thinking of posting here to reach the unique members that only follow this forum. I lost all of my pictures for a time but now have a way of manually fixing them. Hopefully the process will be automated in the near future.

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                  • Hi guys.

                    Well - I was playing with track designs around the flotation mill last night. To start with I'll show you the module joint which is now finished.

                    Photo 1 - so I added two rises to get to the height of the joist of the module through into the other room. I added some 140x19mm pieces of timber with square cuts to keep these rises sturdy and plumb. I added a splice to the joist in the other room to bring it out flush with the edge of the module made from 80x19 and a 7mm ply packer. Things were lined up, four screws added, and then holes drilled and 12mm coach bolts installed. You can also see in this photo the positioning of the flotation mill. I had three options, rotated slightly to the right as shown here, parallel to the layout edge, or rotated to the left.
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                    Photo 2 - Here is a close up of the mill showing this rotation. It was at about this stage that I went and got the actual model to help with visualization. I quickly decided that I didn't like parallel - too boring. There were pros and cons to the other two rotations. When rotated to the right as shown here there was more scope for a nice sigmoid curve leading into to the mill. When rotated to the left the mill made more of an impact visually. After walking around the layout room and viewing these two configurations from various viewing positions I decided that the structure had to rule and needed to be rotated to the left. This places the structure at more of an angle to both the backdrop and layout edge.
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                    So moving on from here I saw only so many possibilities - a straight turnout, a large radius curved turnout, a small radius curved turnout and a small radius Y-turnout. Freda mine starts approximately 300mm into the third module, and the main line will need to go underneath it. This means the track needs to be near the backdrop and the turnout to the flotation mill needs to leave the mainline at either the right hand end of module three or the left hand end of module two.

                    Photo 3 - shows the actual model positioned in the rotation I intend to keep it. The tower behind is in the approximate position of the poppet head.
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                    Photo 4 - First up is the straight turnout. The angle of divergence of this, and both curved turnouts is 12 degrees, while the small Y-turnout is 24 degrees. The two studs side by side at the left end of the photo are where module two and three meet. The main line will enter a tunnel just after the spur leaves to the flotation mill. The main line will actually go under (or very nearly) the poppet head. The problem is trying to get a nice flowing curve to the spur (which this configuration achieves) and giving enough room for the poppet head while trying to disguise the fact that the mainline goes underneath it.
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                    Photo 5 - Shows the configuration with the small Y-turnout. The 24 degree angle gives better clearance of the poppet head, but the curve to the flotation mill is too straight for my liking.
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                    Photo 6 - here we are trying a small radius curved turnout from the right hand end of module three. It was after 11pm at this stage and I was running out of ideas, when it suddenly dawned on my to try using a left hand curved turnout. You can see I made a quick tunnel entrance to help me visualize. This configuration has several advantages. The main line enters the tunnel entrance appearing to go in an entirely different direction to the poppet head and it creates a nice flowing curve to the flotation mill.
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                    Photo 7 - and here is a similar configuration using a short Y-turnout. This configuration also has the main line entering the tunnel entrance in an entirely different direction to the poppet head, gives a nice wide clarence at the front of the poppet head, and creates a lovely flowing curve at the front. I especially like the way the curve of the track opposes the curve of the layout frontage. I think I'm sold. What do you guys think?
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                    Photo 8 - a view from above. Remember the trackage at the right of the tunnel entrance will be hidden from view in the tunnel. You will see I'll have to make an adjustment to the track bed for the main line here. No biggy.
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                    Photo 9 - and finally a view from the right hand end showing the nice curved trackage. I wanted to show how even this far through I'm doing hours of design to try to get the best possible viewing angles and leading lines. I probably spent 2 hours last night being stumped - trying different configurations, photographing them and not really being happy with any of them. I got to the point where I said to myself "what haven't I tried?" That's when the idea of adding the curved turnout the 'wrong way' came to me. I didn't think it would work, but thought I'd give it a try. That lead to the configuration with the small Y-turnout and I went to bed very happy!
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                    More soon, cheers, Mark.
                    Last edited by mark_dalrymple; 03-14-2022, 04:46 PM.

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                    • Mark

                      I'm starting to post again on the other site and plan on starting a thread on this site in the near future. These forums really go through some pain when they switch software platforms. I learned my lesson about only posting in one place. There seems to be a number of members that post on both sites so I'm thinking of posting here to reach the unique members that only follow this forum. I lost all of my pictures for a time but now have a way of manually fixing them. Hopefully the process will be automated in the near future.
                      Thanks for the update, John.

                      It will be great to watch your new thread here - a nice recap of all that you have done. I emailed Jimmy today, so will hopefully be back posting at the other site soon.
                      Cheers, Mark.

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                      • Hi guys.

                        Just a quick photo. Sometimes things get overlooked in the excitement of progress!

                        Here is one such time. I was so keen to get the baseboard for the flotation mill in place that I forgot about the hidden trackwork underneath! A good reminder for the future - work from the bottom up. I pre drilled and countersunk the screw holes for the track bed and used a very short screwdriver to tighten the screws. This one, however, I couldn't get done up tight enough to get the screw head below the trackbed. Where there's a will there's a way. I drilled a hole in the flotation mill baseboard and then added an extension to my impact driver.
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                        More soon, cheers, Mark.

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                        • Good solution with that drill extension, Mark.

                          As for the track work, I do indeed like the last solution the best. It provides nice smooth curves to the approach to the model.
                          Bruce

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                          • Great ideas for sure!!
                            Jerry



                            "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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                            • Mark,

                              I like the curvaceousness of the track configuration you settled on.

                              Mike
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                              Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin

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                              • Mark,
                                Nice solution to the problem of screw access.

                                Scott

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