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**elwoodblues** · 09-02-2009, 05:29 PM

Tyson, The four truss rods are all the same size. It gets a little confusing with everything the same color.

Frederic, the whole build has been interesting, I never built a car like this, but i will say it is well engineered.

**CieloVistaRy** · 09-02-2009, 06:46 PM

I find this build quite interesting.. I know there are a few kits out there, such as San Juan that do not have trucks/couplers at the same height as the Bachmann products that so many of us use..

Arthur

**elwoodblues** · 09-26-2009, 04:54 PM

Well I finally got a couple of nights to finish up the boxcar, so without further ado, here are a couple of shots of the finished boxcar.

And finally a comparison with a Bachmann boxcar.

Final thoughts......

This is a very well engineered and designed kit that was a joy to build. While it is made from mostly cardboard and paper as were care from the 50's and 60's it uses modern laser cutting techniques and the individual boards are laser cut into the cardboard sides.

Comparing it to a Bachmann boxcar the length and width are the same but as you can see from the photo, the height is significantly higher. This is the only knock I have with this kit as personally I would have preferred it to be about the same height as the Bachmann car.

Final weight of the car is 135g (4.7 oz).

I'm looking forward to building the reefer.

**BigLars** · 09-26-2009, 05:50 PM

Ron,

Sweet looking build, the graphics are great.

Maybe you could lower the car some by hunkering it down closer to the rails.

Larry

**Frederic_Testard** · 09-27-2009, 01:28 AM

Nice car, with great decals, Ron.

I think Larry's suggestion, if reasonably doable, might allow you to lower significantly the car, but there seems to be a difference in the roof pitches that will in any case make the detritus car higher.

**Sully** · 09-27-2009, 04:33 AM

Ron, nice build! I would like to see them do some generic cars, say without the humorous artwork. They really do look great.

As for lowering the car...try swapping out the wheelsets to a small diameter as well as seeing if you can remove some of the bolster. Just a thought..tom

**James_VanB** · 09-27-2009, 04:58 AM

It turned out very nice Ron. Looks even better up close in person. Got to see it at our NMRA meet yesterday.

I guess you could say this build has come "Full Circle".

That's so corny but I couldn't resist.

**Peterpools** · 09-27-2009, 05:02 AM

Ron

Ingenious kit and very nicely done. Any thoughts on lowering the boxcar and what is your plan of attack?

Peter

**CieloVistaRy** · 09-27-2009, 07:15 PM

Great build Ron.

You have sold me on getting one or two of those!

Arthur

**Geezer** · 09-28-2009, 01:02 AM

Nice work Ron....JMO, but when I was working on the RR, all of the cars werent the same height.

Its neat for pasenger trains ( streamliners ), but for that pokey old local, it just looks better for the cars to be different.

Great job....& I like the building too!

**elwoodblues** · 09-28-2009, 04:35 AM

Thanks for the comments everyone. I took a quick look at lowering the car but the way it is designed will make lowering the car difficult as there is very little clearance for wheel movement as it is. It may be more trouble than it's worth. Maybe when I build the reefer I'll look into options for lowering the car.

Personally I'm with Geezer and like the different height of the cars. As built the door matches the loading dock height the same as the Bachmann cars, it is just a couple of feet higher so there is no need for the workmen to duck when loading/unloading the car.

Width and length wise it is the same as the Bachmann cars, so chances are I'm going to leave it the way it is and let it earn it's keep on the railroad. When I get the reefer built, I'll post a couple of pictures of it here.

Tom, I wouldn't mind if they did some generic cars also, it shouldn't be hard as all that would be needed is new artwork for the sides and ends. You can only have so many humorous cars before the railway is not taken seriously. Personally I wouldn't mind seeing an Ocean Spray car like the one at the narrow gauge museum in Portland Maine.

edit: Geezer, glad you like the building. It is a cardboard mock-up I built a couple of years ago now to see if I liked the proportions of the buildings.

**Rick** · 09-28-2009, 04:37 AM

Well done Ron. I know putting on all those decals wasn't easy, at least for me it's not.

**elwoodblues** · 09-28-2009, 04:42 AM

Rick,

Actually the best part was that I didn't have to puut on the decals, there were already pre-printed on the car sides.

**Rick** · 09-28-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by elwoodblues

Rick,

Actually the best part was that I didn't have to puut on the decals, there were already pre-printed on the car sides.

:erm: Then I guess it wasn't even remotely hard to do.

Car still looks great. :up:

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