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  • #16
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    Originally posted by wvrr


    Good luck with the reefer, Vic! Any pictures of it?

    Chuck


    Since you asked, here are some photos.

    My ACL Ventilated Boxcar, totally scratchbuilt.







    My scratch built Swift reefer, including some shots of the next Swift reefer in Yellow.










    A few words about these cars. The ACL Ventilated Boxcar was based on an Ambroid kit and the ventilated doors were a lot of fun to make, but I feel like they came out pretty good. I did indeed get a merit award, 88 points.

    The Swift reefer has not been judged yet. I have always wanted to build one of these. It is from the old Paul Larson article. I first saw this in the Kalmbach book, "Build your own Model Cars and locos". I am also building another one just like it, except for the paint. The next one will be the very colorful, yellow car, with a red and white banner, brown ends and roof. The Swift reefers are all scratchbuilt, except for brake equipment, trucks, couplers, Tichy grabs, Grandt Line reefer hardware, which includes hatches, door hinges, closure hardware and nbw's and corner straps. The photos you see are after the Swift reefer took a dive to the floor (carpeted) when I was picking it up for dull coating. It suffered very little damage and took only a few minutes to repair and touch up. I really expected a LOT more damage.

    Regards, Vic Bitleris

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    • #17
      Those are fine looking cars, Vic. It looks like you’re well on your way to your certificate.

      George
      The sky is not my limit, it's my playground.

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      • #18
        Wow, Vic. Both are great looking cars. What is the history on the prototype ventilated car?

        Chuck

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        • #19
          Very nice work on the cars, Vic. Is the ventilated car wood or styrene?
          Bruce

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          • #20
            Hi Chuck,

            This type of ACL Ventilated car does have an interesting history. These cars were developed primarily for transporting watermelons and other perishables that did not need refrigeration. In the off season, the closed up doors could be used to transport clean dry good so they did double duty. I believe these forms of ventilated boxcars were developed by the Atlantic Coast Line railroad with ties to teh Pennsy. They were in service from the 1930's right up to the 1960's. I understand there are a few of them around still.

            Regards, Vic Bitleris

            quote:


            Originally posted by wvrr


            Wow, Vic. Both are great looking cars. What is the history on the prototype ventilated car?

            Chuck


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            • #21
              Hi Bruce, I used scribed basswood as well as other Northeastern lumber for most of the car. However, I did use styrene for the frame ends as that worked out better than any other material. It is funny that you ask, because quite frankly, after I completed the car, I was thinking this might be a pretty good build in styrene. I could actually have made the door hardware a bit more prototypical in styrene also. I do plan on doing one or more of my future projects in styrene and see how that goes. I may make stock car and wood caboose in styrene as that may prove to be a stronger material.

              Regards, Vic Bitleris

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              Originally posted by Dutchman


              Very nice work on the cars, Vic. Is the ventilated car wood or styrene?


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              • #22
                Vic,

                I was just looking at my copy of the Winter 2009 Modelers' Annual, and there is an article by Robert Grzywacz on building the ACL ventilated boxcar. His was 'adapted' to 3' gauge, but it is a nice construction article including detailed drawings that would be helpful to anyone trying to scratchbuild this car.

                That issue also contained a construction article on building an O-Scale boxcar out of cardstock. That is another great article for someone venturing down this path.

                Finally, between the time you posted your picture yesterday afternoon and now, I saw a picture of an ACL ventilated boxcar in another magazine that I had been reading. I was going to mention where it was, but I can't find it in any magazine now. Bonnie finds that quite amusing. :erm:
                Bruce

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                • #23
                  Hey Bruce et al:

                  I am in the process of starting my NMRA APs and the "Cars certificate" is one of the first ones I am attempting.

                  What I would like to build is a fleet of various narrow gauge cars such as something from RGS or Denver & Rio Grande.

                  Here is an example of what I am referring to: http://www.ghostdepot.com/rg/rolling...ht/freight.htm

                  According to the NMRA website, "at least four of the eight models must be scratch built".

                  With that being said, I am not having much luck finding blueprints/plans in my searches online. Does anyone have a source of where can I find blueprints/plans for such cars?

                  Any suggestions would be appreciated!

                  Thanks!!

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                  • #24
                    Louie,

                    Plans can be found in many old issues of the Gazette. I will look through a few and make a list from my somewhat limited collection. There are guys here on the forum who have the complete collection of Gazette Issues.

                    The other great sources is the Carstens book "Slim Gauge Cars", edited by Hal Carstens, 1991. ISBN No. 911868-72-0

                    That book is out of print, and can be pricey on the used book market. However, you might be able to get it through the inter-library loan setup at your local public library. They can check availability through the ISBN number above.

                    It has plans for narrow gauge boxcars, gondolas, flat cars, stock cars, passenger cars, water cars, etc.
                    Bruce

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                    • #25
                      quote:


                      Originally posted by Dutchman


                      The other great sources is the Carstens book "Slim Gauge Cars", edited by Hal Carstens, 1991. ISBN No. 911868-72-0



                      Thanks Bruce!!

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                      • #26
                        Louie,

                        BTW, what scale will you be working in?
                        Bruce

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                        • #27
                          quote:


                          Originally posted by Dutchman


                          BTW, what scale will you be working in?


                          The motive power (Backwoods Miniatures kits) are On30. When it comes to the rolling stock/cars, either O (On30) or HO (HOn3).

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                          • #28
                            Louie,

                            I thought I would scratchbuild in HOn3, too. I bought the Evergreen Hill Designs Carter Brothers 28' flat car kit. I though I would build it first, and make a few 'copies' of the framing while I was at it. I could then build low side gons, water cars, and even 'picnic' cars on those frames.
                            Bruce

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                            • #29
                              quote:


                              Originally posted by Dutchman


                              I though I would build it first, and make a few 'copies' of the framing while I was at it.



                              Funny you should mention that...
                              I have a bunch of Durango Press and Grandt Line HOn3 kits and thought about making wood versions of the plastic kits to satisfy the 'scratchbuild' portion of the AP.

                              I also thought about scaling up the HOn3 parts to On30 to run behind the Backwoods Miniatures locos...

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                              • #30
                                Louie,

                                You might get some ideas an plans for scratchbuilding rolling stock at these links:

                                http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=109.0

                                http://members.fortunecity.com/gknow.../wslc/wslc.htm
                                Bruce

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