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  • NMRA AP Scenery Certificate "Support" Thread

    This thread is one of a series of threads intended to help RR-L Forum members who are also members of the NMRA and are working within the NMRA’s Achievement Program. This is not a thread to debate the pros and cons of either the NMRA or the Achievement Program. For a full explanation of the purpose of these threads, members should refer to this thread on the forum: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/t...TOPIC_ID=24676


    The intent of this category is for the modeler to demonstrate the ability to create realistic scenery from the ground up. The amount of scenery to be completed depends on the scale in which you model: O Scale – 60 sq. ft.; S Scale – 45 sq. ft.; HO Scale – 32 sq. ft; N Scale 18 sq. ft. Other scales are in proportional relationship to HO scale. The total square footage will be evaluated using NMRA guidelines, and must, as a whole, earn 87.5 pts (merit award level). The evaluators will look at five specific areas when they evaluate your scenery: Terrain, Structures, Background, Lighting, and Realism/Conformity. In general, they look how you used those five areas to achieve a realistic model railroad scene.

    More information on the Scenery Achievement category can be found at this link: http://www.nmra.org/education/achiev...p_scenery.html


    In my case, I used the main yard and engine servicing area of my HO layout when working toward this certificate. If I had more of the layout completed, I would have probably chosen an area with more interesting terrain. I had actually documented most of my work on the main yard area in this thread on the forum: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/t...ersey,Highland

    If you are interested in working towards the Scenery Achievement Award, and have any questions on the requirements or the documentation, I would be happy to try to answer them.
    Bruce

  • #2
    Bruce once again thanks for starting this thread. I am working certificate as well as the Electrical and Civil. But in my opinion scenery is the funnest part of all of them.
    Chuck Faist

    Burlington, Ontario

    Enjoy yourself it is later than you think!

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    • #3
      quote:


      Originally posted by northern6400


      Bruce once again thanks for starting this thread. I am working certificate as well as the Electrical and Civil. But in my opinion scenery is the funnest part of all of them.


      Chuck, I mentioned that my entire 'square footage' was contained within my main yard area. Could you describe or show some pictures (or links if they are already here on the fourm) of the scenery you are working on?
      Bruce

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      • #4
        Bruce I have never submitted a photo to the forum. I guess I'll have to get off my butt and read the directions on how to do it and try to submit some.
        Chuck Faist

        Burlington, Ontario

        Enjoy yourself it is later than you think!

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        • #5
          I am wondering if anybody has any experience wrt how the AP Scenery judges view near vertical backdrop hills. There is an article by Sam Swanson in the March 2009 issue of Model Railroader in which he talks about making backdrop hills. His backdrop hill is 3-inches wide and extends 14 to 24-inches upward. Those dimensions make for some very steep slopes which in nature could not really exist. So do the AP scenery judges rate execution versus reality or something else.

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          • #6
            Well, that depends on the judge and their personal position. [:-spin]

            I have judged several AP Scenery certificates and this one comes under:

            ---------------snip snip snip-----------------

            Background (25 pts)

            Treatment of the wall, backdrop, and/or ceiling to realistically depict depth, distance, horizon, and sky.

            This doesn't mean that you have to have a photographic or landscape artist quality background. Your background should continue the 'illusion of reality ' that you are trying to create with your scenery. The background should match the scenery, and the transition where the two of them meet is smooth and/or hidden. One good question to ask yourself is: Is there enough good background to allow a photo to be taken without showing other parts of the room? If a wall is the backdrop, make sure that the texture is appropriate, as well as the color (a concrete block wall painted sky-blue, still looks like a concrete block wall!)

            ---------------snip snip snip-----------------

            This one is judged for up to 25 points and in my opinion and the other judges that were with me, you kind of get an overall impression. Obviously background relief cannot be prototypical, but if it looks good in the overall scheme of things, a 3-D background relief sculpture will certainly add to the points. Most of the things I have judged were pretty much background painting of trees and sky and some "wallpaper" type pre-printed backgrounds. Pretty much as long as you have SOMETHING there and it looks decent, you will do OK. Keep in mind all you need is 87 1/2 points total and this piece maxes out at 25 points. For additional details check out:

            http://www.nmra.org/education/achiev...p_scenery.html

            Regards, Vic Bitleris

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            Originally posted by Joe-SVL


            I am wondering if anybody has any experience wrt how the AP Scenery judges view near vertical backdrop hills. There is an article by Sam Swanson in the March 2009 issue of Model Railroader in which he talks about making backdrop hills. His backdrop hill is 3-inches wide and extends 14 to 24-inches upward. Those dimensions make for some very steep slopes which in nature could not really exist. So do the AP scenery judges rate execution versus reality or something else.


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            • #7
              [:-bouncy][:-bouncy][:-bouncy]

              Had three judges over this evening to judge my layout.

              All went well,I passed! Got 106 out of 120![:-spin][:-spin]

              I had the layout "prejudged" last year and made detailed notes of all the comments. This is like photographs -- they point out things you don't see.

              Paper work was all filled out and I also sent along a CD of pics of all the pertinent areas.

              The documentation now will go to our region's AP chair and then, if all goes well, to national.

              Two more to go - Structures and Cars.

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              • #8
                Congratulations, John!! Keep going! :up:

                Pete

                in Michigan

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                • #9
                  Congratulations, John.
                  Bruce

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                  • #10
                    Good going John keep at it,,,
                    Cheers!, Joe

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                    • #11
                      Congratulations John.
                      Chuck Faist

                      Burlington, Ontario

                      Enjoy yourself it is later than you think!

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                      • #12
                        Congratulations John.

                        George
                        The sky is not my limit, it's my playground.

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                        • #13
                          That's great, John!

                          Chuck

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                          • #14
                            John,

                            GREAT Score !!! I'm probably 7-10 months behind you in my Scenery Certificate work. Got a couple of questions for you.

                            1. Were the NMRA members who did your "prejudging (which I think is a great idea) the same ones who did your final /formal judging?

                            2. Would you share with us some of the "Comments" you wrote down following the prejudging activity? I'd be curious to read what they pointed out to you.

                            3. You mentioned sending in a CD. Did you have the CD prepared for the prejudging activity? Were the photos on the CD of real-world scenery places which you replicated on your layout,or were they photos of your layout as you did your scenery construction? Or Both. Any guidance on number etc would be appreciated.

                            4. What books(s) did you use to guide you in your backdrop preparation?

                            5. If I sent you my e-mail address via your web site would you be willing to share your Scenery certificate documentation with me?

                            6. Did you have your total documentation package available at the prejudging time?

                            thanks

                            Joe in Orlando

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                            • #15
                              Joe:

                              Send me an email and I will see what I can do. I will post answers to your questions shortly.

                              email is johnkana@fc.amdsb.ca

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