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Has anyone used Beams instead of Knuckle Couplers to couple their Loco to Rolling Stock? I'm interested in modeling a Porter 0-4-2 coupled in the original bush-railway manner. Has anyone done this or can someone point me in the right direction to a WebSite or Photos somewhere?
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Kenji,
MinerFortyNiner did a post someplace on different draw bars / link and pin couplers he has used. I could not find the post but maybe you can. Here is a link to his site as well. http://members.cox.net/vgniner/home.html
Verne drops in here so hopefully he will see this post and reply.
Larry
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I'm not sure if this is what you want, but check it out for information; http://www.rbadesign.net/TERRAPIN/LinkAndPin.htm also; http://home.onemain.com/~thebackshop/prather.htm
Louis L&R Western Railroad
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Harold (hminky) has a tutorial on his website on link & pin couplers http://www.pacificcoastairlinerr.com/link_n_pin/ that replace the knuckle couplers.
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Dave Mason
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Thanks Guys . . .
The http://home.onemain.com/~thebackshop/prather.htm link is the closest to what I want to achieve, but using two bogies per log. I'm also looking for a quick & very simple way of setting the couplers up with no fuss when exibiting.
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Coranado scale models makes the brass casting to go on the ends of the "rooster"
(the correct name for your "beam").
Precision scale makes several castings that would work on the cars.
-Marty
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Kenji, if you liked that link I posted for you. Then this is what you are looking for. If you like the Rooster poles below, I could send you how to make them. You use the kadee couplers on the ends of the pole, and don't have to change the kadees on your cars. Quick and simple idea that works.quote:
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Thanks Guys . . .
The http://home.onemain.com/~thebackshop/prather.htm link is the closest to what I want to achieve, but using two bogies per log. I'm also looking for a quick & very simple way of setting the couplers up with no fuss when exibiting.
Louis L&R Western Railroad
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I've got a few PM's in the last couple of hours, so here goes a how to using the pictures above. Please bear in mind you can make them for HO scale, or you can make them as well for On30 use.
Making the Rooster Poles:
Picture #3 shows rooster pole, as designed to work with regular Kadee #5 couplers. Also note that the wood pole is notched at either end, giving a socket for the coupler shank to be glued into. Then, track pins were used to pin through the wood and coupler shank, along with some ACC glue to hold the coupler strong. Also, looks like a NBW. Then weather up as you see fit. Note the inverted trip pin mounting. This holds the couplers up on the logging trucks #5 couplers.
Picture #1 shows the top side detail shot of the #5 couplers compatible rooster pole. Note the couplers are "OK" for mating with #5 couplers, but the trip pin had to be mounted/changed "inverted", and bent down over the top of the couplers. This way the pins rest on top of the adjacent coupler, and doesn't allow the rooster pole to "drop" through the #5 couplers on the Logging trucks.
Picture #2 shows a pair of scratched built outside framed wood platform log disconnects. Note the #5 couplers and rooster pole. These can be used on any Kadee logging disconnects, or any truck with kadee couplers.
Louis L&R Western Railroad
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Thanks Louis! You always make it look easy!
(With your explanations! )
The Geezer
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I didnt think knuckle couplers were used on roosters.
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Kenji, a rooster would be your best bet. Knuckles might work, but I've never seen them used by a prototype...whenever slack occurs in the knuckles, the rooster beam could slip through the knuckle and drop onto the roadbed, which (in the case of a loaded car)would result in several very unpleasant things happening all at once!
Louis' great looking model has apparently overcome that, it looks like he has added a tab on the top of the knuckle face to keep the rooster engaged with the car knuckles.
I have used the PSC brass rooster ends, and they are great for connecting cars via link and pin connection.
For a look at my dabblings in L&P operation, here's a link to the thread: [urlhttp://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13598&SearchTerms=link[/url]
Have fun, look out, and watch your fingers around those couplers! [:-cowboy]
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No they were not used, but again this isn't prototype. It's model railroading. "something that works only" nothing show worthy here, or a first place winner. If everyone can't tell this isn't protype, then their in the wrong hobby.quote:
Originally posted by lab-dad
I didnt think knuckle couplers were used on roosters.
Louis L&R Western Railroad
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Louis, you solved your problem, which is the spirit of On30, isn't it?
Kenji, you can also make a drawbar from brass stock, or use one from Sonora Scale Models: http://www.haybrosgarage.com/o_scale_products.htm. The sides of their LP-01 and LP-02 frets are intended to be used as longer drawbars if desired.
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Thanks Guys, once again - a goldmine of information here.
In New Zealand, they were called 'Drawbars' or 'Beams'. A rooster here is some kinda 'chook'.
I think I'll end up making a single 'Beam' inserted directly into the Porters DraftBox then CA a DraftBox onto the 'Log Bogie' & link it up this way.
Keep the links & suggestions coming, as they provide a great source of inspiration.
Any idea how the 'Log Bogies' were transported when enpty??
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The link Verne provided has a period at the end of it and therefore will not work. Try this one: http://www.haybrosgarage.com/o_scale_products.htm
Best regards, Bill Hay @ Sonora Scale Models
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