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  • #76
    Beautifully conceived and executed track plan, Gregg. It really shows off your models to their best advantage. :up: :up:

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    • #77
      Hi GreggW,

      No words come to mind that could possibly articulate the praise you deserve for this layout.

      Regarding the wire chute operations, a canon/shotgun type delivery system might also be possible where a snall line is shot over the ship and the ship's winch used to winch the line to the ship. A series of varying size lines would be used until the final wire rope was transferered and attached to the boom of the ship. I don't doubt the use of a bouy, but the salt erosion to the wire rope would require many replacements and the longevity of the wire would always be in question.

      Just a thought.

      Regards,

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      • #78
        Gregg,

        While others are heaping their praise on your layout, I have a complaint to add to the mix.

        Many weeks ago I placed an order for some fresh fish and a couple hundred feet of lumber for we in Alaska have this bridge to build.

        I received the fish in a timely fashion and I will say there is nothing better than fresh fish right off the grill.

        However, I am still waiting on the lumber and now I see it just hanging there in mid air.

        Will it ever get on the schooner and get to Alaska?

        All kidding aside, the picture with the lumber being transferred to the schooner is one of my favorites and shows off not only the incredible modeling but the very creative way this layout will be presented to the world.

        Keep up with posting these great pictures for I study every one of them for ideas.
        <img src="http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/data/bbags/20076794158_b3b.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br>John Bagley<br /><br>Modeling the Alaska Railroad in HO in Wildwood Georgia.

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        • #79
          Gregg

          Aha, I can now spot both tunnels - I'm lousy at spot the difference competitions too.

          Kathy
          www.kathymillatt.co.uk

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          • #80
            quote:


            Originally posted by Bbags


            Gregg,

            ... I have a complaint ...Many weeks ago I placed an order for some fresh fish and a couple hundred feet of lumber for we in Alaska have this bridge to build ...I received the fish in a timely fashion ...However, I am still waiting on the lumber ...


            John,
            ... ummm, ... er, .... ah,... well, I have some very bad news.[:-cry][:-cry] You see, everything was going fine with our loading this morning, then all of a sudden the cable broke !! And now your lumber is floating away!!



            The sailors are all blaming some guy named Trent. They are saying he jinxed the load by saying the cable will rust and break, then sure enough it broke!! Well, you know how superstitious the sailors are. Anyway, the crew is out trying to round up and fish out what they can. If we could only keep the birds from using your beams for fishing and, er, unfishing, if you know what I mean.

            Will keep you posted. In the mean time, a one-lane bridge can be very interesting ... seriously ... just think about it.

            Gregg


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            • #81
              Just catching up Gregg , I really like the track plan, it looks like a good selection of operations and scenery the plan does help to put everything into perspective. I like the sawmill as well.I still didn't find Wicked Wandas.

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              • #82
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                Originally posted by wickman


                Just catching up Gregg , I really like the track plan, it looks like a good selection of operations and scenery the plan does help to put everything into perspective. I like the sawmill as well.I still didn't find Wicked Wandas.


                Thanks Lynn. Regarding Wicked Wandas, it became an Insurance Company (D. Zaster's Marine and Rail Insurance) and sits across the tracks from the Grant's Landing station. It was selected for it's tall and unique roof line, adding visual interest from all angles, a great background structure. You can see it in the background of this shot of the FSM Rawlings structure.
                Gregg


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                • #83
                  quote:


                  The sailors are all blaming some guy named Trent. They are saying he jinxed the load by saying the cable will rust and break, then sure enough it broke!! Well, you know how superstitious the sailors are. Anyway, the crew is out trying to round up and fish out what they can. If we could only keep the birds from using your beams for fishing and, er, unfishing, if you know what I mean.


                  Great story, Gregg, and a nice variation from the previous shots. Bad for John's bridge, though...

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                  • #84
                    Hi Gregg. You are an inspiration to alot of us. I was wondering about your lighthouse. Is it scratch built or is it a kit? I will be working on my warf scene this winter and am in the market for a really nice light house. Yours is pretty nice......

                    Brad

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                    • #85
                      Gregg, I was wondering how the line would stay taught with the ship moving and bobbing on the water, I guess there must be some sort of spring tension applied on the line some where? In the proto shot it looks like there is a second line returning back to shore, have you decided to add a return rope for braking and to return the hoist carriage back to the top? Or since the "accident" are you looking into a different option all together? Pat

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                      • #86
                        Hi GreggW and Pat,

                        Actually, you would want some slack in the line as you transfer loads. Point in fact there is normally. If there is any wave action, this could cause the ship to bob up and down, and possibly from side to side. This latter action could cause some serious strain on the boom. Normaly, either the ship or the shore facility would have control of the load transfer and therefore to watch the line's tension and play during the transfer. Should an emergency occur, either the shore station or the ship would initiate what is called an emergency break-away in the US Navy. That basically involves scuttling the transfer line and any load being transferred at the time.

                        Perhaps the wire line did not corrode and cause a breakage. More than likely, the cable winch operator on shore, received a call from GreggW on his cell phone and took his eyes off the cable and load. He didn't see the strain and eventual cracking of the ship's boom. That caused the emergency break away and sunsequent loss of the transfer load into the ocean.

                        That's my story and I am sticking to it.

                        Regards,

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                        • #87
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                          Originally posted by MikeC


                          Beautifully conceived and executed track plan, Gregg. It really shows off your models to their best advantage. :up: :up:


                          Thanks Mike. I am sure there will be issues with this track plan due to some of the compromises I had to make, but so far it is fullfilling my expectations.
                          Gregg


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                          • #88
                            Looks great Gregg. Did you place the structures according to a (drawn or CAD) plan or by test fit/mock up?

                            Mike

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                            • #89
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                              Originally posted by kirk


                              Gregg, you are creating a layout which I'm sure will become legendary! I'm simply stunned and demoralized after going through all these fine pictures over and over! You have managed to create a wealth of separate scenes with opportunities for composing fine pictures, and the overall appearance is airy and natural. As a landscape painter I wish such a place really existed... I'd never run out of subjects to paint.


                              Kirk,
                              Thank you so much for your more than generious comments and for recognizing some of the subtleties that went into the design and creation. But, this is presently just another unfinished layout, with much work to be done before it meets any acceptable standards and far more before it meets my expectations. It is a good start, that hopefully I do not screw up. But most of all, this build has been a fun and satisfying experience which has given me a much greater appreciation for the builders of all layouts. We put so much of ourselves into these railroads we create and my hats off to all of you who have made one.

                              Thanks again,

                              Gregg


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                              • #90
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                                Originally posted by mlvarley


                                Looks great Gregg. Did you place the structures according to a (drawn or CAD) plan or by test fit/mock up?

                                Mike


                                Hi Mike. The CAD program was useful for approximating geographies and elevations, as well as roughing out some building locations, but no more. I have found that the only good way of selecting proper structures and structure locations is via trial and error. There are so many variables (size, shape, color, roofline, window size, etc) that you just cannot tell until the structure is in place. To help in this, I usually build with two potential locations in mind, hoping that one of the two places will work.
                                Gregg


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