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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  12:36:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Contemplating a screen door for a general store/ rural post office/ gas station

Any one ever made one? If so how? Not even a guess here.
The kind with an advertising door push.
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Karl Scribner
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Ensign
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  1:05:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl, Vector cut has some laser cut screen doors.
Though I think Dave at Vector cut has made his stuff available thru FOS scale models.
Here's what they look like, with the fine screen that comes with them.




If you can't order these screen doors from FOS I would be more than happy to send you one of my doors that I have with some screen as well, just send me a PM with you address, and I will send you one of the styles that you like.

Here's how one of the screen doors that I used from Vector cut looked on my farmhouse





Greg



Edited by - Ensign on 04/02/2021 2:15:43 PM

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Orionvp17
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  1:06:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try a thin door frame with "screen" from a piece of discarded black or grey sheer women's hose sandwiched in between the inside and outside frame. Glue the other frame on and paint....

And please let us know if this approach actually works! I've seen it mentioned, and haven't tried it yet.

Pete
in Michigan



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Rail and Tie
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  1:35:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Rail and Tie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For the screen, you can use silk screen mesh.

It is very fine and paintable if needed.

Search amazon for "silk screen mesh".


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jbvb
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  1:42:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbvb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I made these removable window screens using styrene strip and material from a holiday package ribbon:



I assembled the frame atop the ribbon material. When I wetted the joints with MEK, that also bonded the ribbon material to the frame.

[edit] The holiday ribbon looked a lot like that provided by Vector Cut/FOS.


James

Edited by - jbvb on 04/02/2021 1:51:31 PM

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spyder62
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  2:42:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit spyder62's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Google search for HO storm doors comes up with some
rich


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sgtbob
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  2:53:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a screen door in one of my structures that everyone who saw it thought it had very fine
screen in it. It didn't.

I used a piece of clear styrene cut to fit the door frame but before I glued it together I took
a piece of fine sandpaper and lightly scratched the plastic at about a 45 degree angle. Then I
did the same at 45 degrees the other way (90 degrees to the first scratches). You have to
go very lightly with this.

It looks more real than any oversized screening.

Bob


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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  4:32:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Like Greg shows, I use a ribbon you get from Michaels store or Joanne Fabrics.
This one is a silver gray color, but you can get black as well. This is what I use for all my windows and door screens.
It is called "Offray 2.25"x9' Quest Sheers Wired Edge Ribbon". You just cut the size you need from in-between the wired edges.




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Bill Gill
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  5:31:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl, I'm facing the exactly the same situation. Part of my layout is set in late summer. There is a general store/Post Office/gas station with both doors wide open to let out the heat,unfortunately it lets in flies and other bugs.

I want a pair of thin screen doors that I can position closed or open or in between. Like you, I want doors with an ad on the push bar across the door, probably for some brand of bread.

The two styles of doors on the right in Greg's post look the most like what I imagine, adding a pressed metal bread sign across the center bar. But I don't think either will fit in the front opening.

One option would be to cut a frame out of scale 1" styrene sheet and glue a fine mesh across the back, though I haven't figured out how to hide the edge of the screen if one of the screen doors is open and seen on edge.

Rail and Tie's suggestion of using silk screen mesh is a good one. You can probably get scraps for free from a local screen printer and some meshes are really fine.

So is Bob's suggestion of gently sanding thin clear styrene in two different directions, 90 degrees apart. That can look very good even in HO and would add some strength to an otherwise very thin door.

I have also had good luck using the fine mesh (Nylon?) that some tea bags are made of. I have found that different brands of tea have meshes of quite different fineness. On the left edge of the photo you can see the blue screen door on the coal company's office. The door is from some old Model Power kit. The screen is teabag mesh. Since adding that screen I found an even fine mesh teabag, but the one in place looks ok.



Edited by - Bill Gill on 04/02/2021 5:40:13 PM

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Glen Haasdyk
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  8:56:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Portable CP station that I just completed a couple months ago came with a screen door:




The screen material was white tule or fine fabric mesh (I suspect you can find it in Michaels or Hobby Lobby) That was cut to size and sandwiched between the two door parts.





The finished product looks pretty convincing to me.



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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  9:11:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for these fine suggestions, gee, now Iíll have to see what I can conjure up.

Thanks again...


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Karl Scribner
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Posted - 04/02/2021 :  9:23:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orionvp17

Try a thin door frame with "screen" from a piece of discarded black or grey sheer women's hose sandwiched in between the inside and outside frame. Glue the other frame on and paint....

And please let us know if this approach actually works! I've seen it mentioned, and haven't tried it yet.

Pete
in Michigan



Yes.



Edited by - UKGuy on 04/02/2021 9:24:05 PM

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BurleyJim
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Posted - 04/03/2021 :  12:59:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ensign

Karl, Vector cut has some laser cut screen doors.
Though I think Dave at Vector cut has made his stuff available thru FOS scale models.
Here's what they look like, with the fine screen that comes with them.




If you can't order these screen doors from FOS I would be more than happy to send you one of my doors that I have with some screen as well, just send me a PM with you address, and I will send you one of the styles that you like.

Here's how one of the screen doors that I used from Vector cut looked on my farmhouse





Greg




Greg, Is VECTOR CUT back in business? His website is blank. I was looking for hinges 2 years ago from him.

Jim


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Edited by - BurleyJim on 04/03/2021 01:04:20 AM

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Ensign
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Posted - 04/03/2021 :  09:25:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim, it doesn't look like it.
I even went too FOS to see if I could find his products but could not find anything from him.
It's really to bad, he offered some great products!
Sorry to get your hopes up.

Greg



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Pennman
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Posted - 04/03/2021 :  1:12:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl,

I am not at home now to upload a picture, but if you need one, let me know.

There was a LASERkit by American Model Builders, - Screen Doors and Windows No. 311 ( for Kit #123 Corydon Gen. Store )
I have one and can download the picture later if you need it.

Rich



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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/03/2021 :  2:56:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rich;

Love to see it, thanks.


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Karl Scribner
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