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hminky
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Posted - 12/01/2018 :  10:42:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
We can build a credible C-19 from the Roundhouse 2-8-0 with minimal bashing. The stock cab can be adjusted to make a taller one. The opening can be fitted with a new filler piece and all that is required is an 1/8 high skirt around the bottom. A new side panel would be added for decoration. Our crude mockup with a cab from another project.

S-scale C-16 domes are the right size to make our Scale172 C-19. Those domes are Tomalco but domes are available from Slim Gauge 3D at Shapeways. The motor mount just has to be adjusted and the cylinders have to be modified to lower the boiler.





Harold



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David J Buchholz
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Posted - 12/01/2018 :  12:51:03 PM  Show Profile  Send David J Buchholz an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The question I have, is since 1/87 is so common, and you are apparently using ho scale standard gauge track, why did you decide to model 1/72 narrow guage?

I am curious as to the decision process you went through to reach that result. What were the main factors?


Home of the North Coast Railroad.

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hminky
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Posted - 12/01/2018 :  1:02:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David J Buchholz

The question I have, is since 1/87 is so common, and you are apparently using ho scale standard gauge track, why did you decide to model 1/72 narrow guage?

I am curious as to the decision process you went through to reach that result. What were the main factors?


Please read the original post.

Harold



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hminky
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Posted - 12/01/2018 :  1:24:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Roundhouse/Athearn HO 2-8-0 scales really well against post-1900 narrow gauge 2-8-0s like this Southern Pacific narrow gauge 2-8-0. The stock cab can be adjusted to make a late 2-8-0.





Our cab doesn't go below the walkway because the walkways are at the base of the boiler where the examples are higher on the boiler.

Harold



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hminky
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Posted - 12/13/2018 :  12:45:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Found this idea on John Ott's old time train site.

http://www.ottgalleries.com/roundhouse%20bash.html

The Tyco/Mantua Ten-Wheeler boiler can be fit to the Roundhouse old time mechanism.



Doug Tagsold used the MDC/Athearn/Roundhouse HO 2-8-0 for his Scale172 locos. The loco mechanism matches the first generation narrow gauge consolidations. 14mm Scale Link drivers give us the correct 40" driver size. A boiler from the Tyco/Mantua Ten-Wheeler gives us a boiler.



Locomotives were proportional the same setup can be used for a HO early era consolidation.



Have the mechanism running smoothly.

Here is the loco in large scale:

http://forums.mylargescale.com/15-model-making/14042-east-broad-top-3-rockhill.html

Harold



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railman28
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Posted - 12/13/2018 :  1:07:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good input Harold, Michael Hohn has used this combination to represent a Husky Consolidated of the Leigh Valley. It came out quite nice indeed. you might ask him about it.

Bob


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hminky
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Posted - 12/15/2018 :  2:43:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Was asked why not HO?

We now have our Scale172 trains running. Simple mods to HO equipment gives us narrow gauge in a larger scale in the 1870s. This was my reason for doing this. All the other scales can't give me easy 1870s narrow gauge.





Adding 28" HO wheels gives us Scale172 20" wheels and completes the look of early narrow gauge.



The far right wheel on the ore car is a HO scale 33" and demonstrates the difference. A really D-oh! moment, wondered why I had an extra wheel set.



The ore car give us an early coal car. The smaller wheels look good.

Harold



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hminky
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  3:50:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What about track?

We are using HO Kato Unitrack to represent our early era narrow gauge track. The funky alternate universe HO spacing looks great for our track.









In our HOn30 adventure we found that the track can be painted at the bench and blended in with "fur grass" or Sculptamold/latex paint mixture.



Harold



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Bill Gill
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  4:04:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That does look good!


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RyanAK
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  4:19:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for updating here, Harold. As I said over on MRH, this does look pretty good. I'll have to take a hard look at this. As I said... my motivation is to get a particular locomotive modeled (3' gauge 25-ton Class B Climax) and the Bachmann HO mechanism scales out pretty darn good in 1/72... except for the gauge. If I decide I can live with the 10" extra between the rails, I may have a path forward. Lots to consider, but I like the thought you've put into this and really appreciate your efforts!



Designing a 1905-ish Pennsylvania Short Line
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51030&whichpage=1

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hminky
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  4:31:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Old time trains always look better in black and white.





Harold



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RyanAK
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  4:31:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's the Jennings Bros. operation in Lopez, PA. They were 44" gauge from 1892 until re-gauging to standard in 1900. I think this would be a great prototype for Scale172.



(Mike Hohn, there are your tanbark gons!!)

The railroad I'm currently working on is the 3' gauge White Deer & Loganton. Most of the handful of structures I'll need for this layout will be scratch built anyway, so no worries going to 1/72 there. The Climax is my challenge. Otherwise, if the 3' prototype looks close enough on scale 47" track...





Designing a 1905-ish Pennsylvania Short Line
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51030&whichpage=1

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railman28
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  5:09:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Harold, it certainly is working. The freight trains are looking good and Narrow gauge. Are the passenger car bodies tall enough?

Bob


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hminky
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  5:24:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit hminky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by railman28

Harold, it certainly is working. The freight trains are looking good and Narrow gauge. Are the passenger car bodies tall enough?

The HO cars are taller than the early narrow gauge cars.



Harold



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railman28
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Posted - 12/18/2018 :  6:22:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's very interesting. Thanks



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