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Pennman
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Posted - 03/24/2020 :  10:44:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeez... Phil, after seeing what you're doing here, there's no wonder why I chose to do a small, crappy boat build!! This is truly amazing work for sure. How do you keep afloat?

Rich



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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 03/28/2020 :  07:18:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg, thanks for stopping by, yes, it is all hands (fingers) on deck.
Rich, your question has me puzzled. There is nothing wrong with a quick and dirty boat build yours is looking good.

I keep getting tempted to start all over to fix all the problems but I have come up with an idea that might help.
There are 2 frames that fit in-between the frames that are there now. Thinking of making them as they would be made , technically they would be called triple drawn frames made up of futtocks.
I will make up an experimental set to explain and see how they go.

Im at work right now waiting on my trailer to get loaded so I can get on home.


Phil Z
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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 03/30/2020 :  7:44:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, here is where I am at as of today. Drew out the frame 9.5 and have laid out one of the 3 layers that will make up the frame.

a couple of pics of where this frame sits




here is the drawn frame with the fore face and the aft face


this frame will have 3 layers of 1/32" basswood. this is the front layer cut out for 2 futtocks. the other 2 layers will need the joints between the futtocks staggered for strength. If this was a real boat these layers would be fasten together with treenails. Not going to do that, glue will work.
these boards are scale 1-1/3"x12"x length needed. Will have to see what widths and lengths I need for the other 2 layers.


and do a mirror frame for the other side




Phil Z
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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 04/06/2020 :  9:53:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now have all 3 layers for both sides cut out and glued together.




trimmed down close to the lines


glued, waiting to dry so I can sand down to the lines and work in the bevels. The spans are just sitting there now, will be clamped when installed to insure proper placement/centering.


don't think I'll do this again, scale too small!
after I get these sanded will post pics of them installed.

later, after I get my eyesight back



Phil Z
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Ensign
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Posted - 04/06/2020 :  10:30:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Phil, that is some amazing work you are doing there!
Keep up the great work!

Greg Shinnie



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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 04/07/2020 :  12:04:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This build is totally amazing!!

Jerry

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Frank Palmer
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Posted - 04/07/2020 :  10:28:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Frank Palmer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
once upon a time Phil said, "don't think I'll do this again, scale too small!"

Phil, I could use a small sail boat, how big did you want to go?

I was wondering why you don't use plywood? Rather than having to piece strip wood together to keep the grain going in the right direction.


Frank

Edited by - Frank Palmer on 04/07/2020 10:31:22 AM

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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 04/07/2020 :  10:58:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg and Jerry, thanks for stopping by, glad you are enjoying this build.

Ah, Frank, this was just an example to show how a sawn frame would be assembled. I did cheat a bit as I included the floor beam in the frame as cut.
As for a small sailboat would a stretched Haven 12 1/2 with a counter added work? If you go to my CCLC construction thread there is some pics of a half model of it there. I am on my phone now, can post a pic after I get home from work.

If I was going to build this 1:1 I would laminate the frames, much less waste.
Going to continue on with the basswood as I have supplies on hand. Will continue to work around the errors as I have really no other choice except to scratch the whole thing.


Phil Z
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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 04/12/2020 :  7:38:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here Frank, is this small enough?
LOA: 20'6"
LWL: 13'9"
Beam: 6'3"
Draft: 2'9"
Disp.: 40 cuft.
Sail area: 195 sq.ft





Phil Z
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Frank Palmer
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Posted - 04/12/2020 :  7:52:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit Frank Palmer's Homepage  Reply with Quote

WOW, that's nice Phil.


Frank

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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 04/12/2020 :  7:58:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sanded the frames and have glued in place.

cross piece just sitting there verifying the width. The shaded spots are for where the top of the false deck should be with the straight lower cross piece. shows the warp in it


in place and all glued, the cross pieces will be removed when dry


and a peek from underneath


will not be making another "sawn" frame, way too much work involved!

back to the deck beams

the journey continues...





Phil Z
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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 04/12/2020 :  9:13:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank, I still have not been able to draw a cabin that I like for the Jennas Rose yet. Dont want to mess up her beauty.

Phil Z
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Frank Palmer
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Posted - 04/13/2020 :  10:57:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit Frank Palmer's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Phil, I'd go simple with clean lines.





Frank

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Ensign
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Posted - 04/13/2020 :  1:31:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Phil, your "Jenna's Rose" and Frank's "Dark Harbor" half hull models look beautiful!

Greg Shinnie



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Carrie Creek
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Posted - 11/17/2020 :  7:03:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, sorry about the long break, got sidelined with home&work. No Covid.
Frank, thanks, Im not getting the proportions right, and classic is what I am trying to do.
Greg, thanks for the kind words.

Been wanting something for tenders and found some O scale dory kits that would work. Measured out in the scale I am using here they are 134 along the bottom 178 LOA & 44 beam across the gunls.
There are a few inaccuracies that I need to address.
When I get home I will post some pictures and try to explain the problems.

Later


Phil Z
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