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JimF
Engine Wiper

Posted - 12/23/2016 :  4:22:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has this subject been abandoned, or has discussion moved eleswhere?

Jim F

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George D
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Posted - 12/23/2016 :  4:34:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim, there isn't a whole lot of action here right now, but the Dead Rail Forum hasn't been abandoned. If anyone has something to post, please do.

George



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Philip
Fireman



Posted - 04/19/2017 :  10:55:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit Philip's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pardon me, How long has this dead rail forum been here? Where do I start to convert a loco? My subject of interest is On30. I like the idea of building outdoors! thanks!

Philip



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BurleyJim
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Posted - 04/19/2017 :  11:04:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Philip

Pardon me, How long has this dead rail forum been here? Where do I start to convert a loco? My subject of interest is On30. I like the idea of building outdoors! thanks!

Philip



Appears to date back to 2013.



Take the red pill

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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/19/2017 :  1:29:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This was in 9-2016 as the last post I believe; http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47900


Louis
Pacific Northwest Logging in the East Coast
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Ensign
Fireman

Posted - 04/19/2017 :  2:55:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well.

Greg Shinnie



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Philip
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Posted - 04/19/2017 :  3:26:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Philip's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think your correct


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BurleyJim
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Posted - 04/19/2017 :  3:44:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ensign

I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well.

Greg Shinnie





Take the red pill

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cajon
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Posted - 04/19/2017 :  11:16:46 PM  Show Profile  Send cajon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone here been able to convert an HO ALCO S-2/-4 or CF7 to dead rail that is self-contained, i.e. everything inside the loco shell?

Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA
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TmOn30
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Posted - 04/20/2017 :  04:29:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Ensign Posted - 04/19/2017 : 2:55:05 PM
I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well.

Greg Shinnie


While NOT wanting to take this off topic
Greg your posting cannot go pass unrewarded


Classic Dad humour (keep it up )

Normal broadcasting will now resume

Cheers Tom.



Edited by - TmOn30 on 04/20/2017 04:38:29 AM

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Bart Salmons
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Posted - 05/02/2017 :  7:40:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cajon

Has anyone here been able to convert an HO ALCO S-2/-4 or CF7 to dead rail that is self-contained, i.e. everything inside the loco shell?



It is doable with the right components.....



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Brunton
Crew Chief



Posted - 05/03/2017 :  05:53:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit Brunton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As I wait for retirement and purchase of my retirement home (boy, does THAT sound creepy!), I've been messing around with ideas for what I want in my new model railroad.

I have no idea what my available square footage or space configuration will be. I'm also open to abandoning my "CB&Q in Wyoming" setting for an entirely new theme. I'm not really considering moving into the diesel age, but I may shift back in time from the 1940's to the late 19th or early 20th century.

One thing I HAVE settled on is that I'm going to give dead rail a very serious try. Being an engineer (not the "loco driver" type), the challenges of creating a solidly functional model railroad in which the battery-powered, radio-controlled equipment can operate reliably and without significant compromise (i.e., no permanently attached battery cars, no manhandling of equipment during a session to swap out / recharge batteries, etc.) are enticing.
I'll be settling into my retirement in 14-18 months, and shortly thereafter will begin my foray into dead rail. We'll see how it goes!



Edited by - Brunton on 05/03/2017 05:55:27 AM

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Bill Gill
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Posted - 05/03/2017 :  07:44:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brunton, I'll be one interested in your progress and challenges. I have a friend seriously considering dead rail for an HO scale Civil War era layout.


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tloc
Fireman

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Posted - 05/03/2017 :  08:34:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mark, creepy no, but I am on my second retirement home since I retired in 9/14. Lots of time in retirement to do what you want when you want. Unless you're married then it's when she wants! It's that third retirement home that scares me.

Anyway, battery power.

I have a Blue Rail setup with battery. http://bluerailtrains.com

The power is smooth and constant, but using the cell phone as the throttle is not for me. Cost was under $150 for the decoder, batteries and charger. Mine is diesel and while the board is in the powered SD40-2 the battery is in a dummy Sd40-2. I have run on my layout for up to 3 hours without degradation of power. Since you are into steam everything should fit into a decent size tender and therefore no need for a trailing battery car. Biggest issue other than the throttle for me is lack of diesel consisting. I know they are working on that.

I am also using CVP's micro air. http://www.cvpusa.com/airwire_micro_decoder.php

The boards are small, my batteries are again in a dummy engine. For for you everything will easily fit a steam tender. Like Blue Rail this system is independent from DCC or Dc and can be run along side them. You need in addition to a DCC decoder installed in a engine is of course the radio board, the batteries, a charger AND a CVP radio throttle. A small investment but I really like this system. Consisting diesels is just like using the regular CVP DCC systems, not hard at all.

Thirdly, my main power is Rail Pro. Rail Pro can easily be switched to battery power but again nothing is small enough to fit in one diesel and for you it would need a large steam tender. There has been some discussion on the Rail Pro forum about battery power, mostly con. I have not tried it yet! I have extra batteries from the above systems just too lazy on this one.

https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/topic,345.0/topicseen.html

A helpful site: Is Pete's dead rail install---

http://deadrailinstalls.com/about

Rail Pro is IMO, great, wonderful cannot say enough good about it EXCEPT the sound stinks and that is why I experiment elsewhere. I want good quality sound. In that regard CVP with loksound decoders and battery is the best so far for me.

IMO, until batteries are small enough to fit into a single engine along with the decoders Battery power will stay a small niche market. Modelers fight change, look how long it took DCC to really catch on.

Hope this is helpful, there are a few others on the market and a google search can help you there. The S-cab by Staton is a great but seemingly expensive. The British product escapes me at this time but if you don't need sound it maybe for you! These are what I have settled on for the time being!

TomO



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Bill Uffelman
Fireman

Posted - 05/03/2017 :  12:13:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Deleting is the British system.


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Bill Uffelman
Fireman

Posted - 05/03/2017 :  12:15:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Deltang - dampened auto correct!


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