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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  1:06:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again Mike!

I know I'm on the "correct" road to have lots of home road cars, but like most model rails, I love boxcar variety. Almost a fetish. Not as easily attained when modeling the 1880s!

(Man this iced tea is hitting the spot. Lawn mower deck is done!)

As for adding capy and dimensional data, not a huge issue other than making good guesses on the former.

At this point, I think there will be at least two types of O&S boxcars: Modified (reduced height) Mantua boxcars and Bachmann 34' boxcars. I am thinking that all of the modified Mantua's should have simplistic lettering (and one or two may even have weathered looking paint), and the 34' cars could have simplistic (for the cars purchased earlier) with some road weathering, and perhaps something a bit more stylized ala' that StL&SF car in the previous photo for cars purchased later on in the 1880s with very little weathering. The idea there is to convey the passage of time and evolution of the common boxcar.

I have a collection of builders photos from the Harrisburg car construction that I've gone back through and I was shocked to again see how scant the lettering was on the cars of the era. If you all have not seen those pictures, I will share some here if you'd like.

Also time to start giving some mental energy to:

* The theoretical length of the O&S, its connections, traffic, etc.

* The engine roster.

More on the above two points later.

I am debating shift of priorities. That is, migrate away from getting as far as possible on the layout as quickly as possible, over to addressing the equipment issues. In other words, I may spend time at the workbench for a spell instead of quickly moving onto the lighting, backdrop installation/painting (basic blue) phase. Though, I will have to admit IF I accomplish the next phase of layout construction prior to shifting to the workbench, the entire room will be bright and cheerful, what with the layout lighting and all the sky blue backdrops and I could be satisfied with such a layout state longer.

We shall see!

All fer now.

Andre




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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  1:30:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you can get your hands on the old IHC (I think) 34 boxcar with the unusual roofwalk (transverse boards rather than conventional longitudinal) you have a reasonably accurate Missouri Pacific car; Clover House carries dry transfers. I picked one up at a train show.

Mike


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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  1:57:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I think I just "happen" to have, um, "several" of those.

(Stocked up on them before I was made aware of the funky roofs.)

I'll figure out a way for the O&S to handle traffic with the MP (they were at St. Louis during that time, I think.) Jay Gould was involved in the St. Louis & Iron Mountain (which assumed the Little Rock & Fort Smith) and the MP, I think. The O&S connects with the StL&IM at the Arkansas River, so surely there could be some traffic that consisted of MP boxcars, though "logically", the Gould empire would have kept the MP cars on their home rails. (But, seeing as I'm concocting a line that didn't exist in the first place, I shouldn't be bothered with such foibles now, should I?)

I'm headed out to the hobby room soon as I hit "post"... I think I'll take a look at how many of the funky MP boxcars I have.

All fer now!

Andre




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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  3:06:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yup, I have a "few" of those MP cars...





All of the above are OEM (non modified).

I also have another box of OEM trainset cars to be converted and readied for paint...



Here's some of the cars I have already converted and are pretty much ready for paint...



In all, I have my work cut out for me when the time comes!!

Andre



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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  4:22:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Time for the airbrush.


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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  6:30:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And the pin vice and drills and razor saw and order a bunch of wheels and couplers and...

...so it goes!

Probably can't tell in the pics, but I shorten and lower the AHM Rivarossi/Pocher flatcars. I also shorten the side boards for those destined to become gondolas. So, that's more fiddle time invested, too.

All in good time.

According to the USPS, the spikes are on the radar locally and due to be delivered tomorrow. That will mean track laying until FINISHED. (Or I run out of something else! It's going to be close on flex track. )

Andre



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railman28
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  7:40:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm glad you can use the Missouri Pacific boxcars with the Transverse boards. In the time it took me to strip off all the oversize details I could assemble the shell of a laser cut kit. Detailing ether car takes the same time. I felt I got a better result starting with a laser cut kits. I only needed about 30 cars. I can't say no to all the nice new kits that are coming out so I had to add staging so I could start interchange some of them.
I've seen others getting good results with these mass produced cars. I thing you well too.

Bob


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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/04/2019 :  8:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob!

Well... I would prefer to not use all those MP cars... but it's a gift horse kind of thing, 'ya know? I need quick n' easy rolling stock, and these are on hand, so there you have it, and there you are.

The trainset cars were originally envisioned to be a quick, and a cheap, means to amass sufficient rolling stock for basic operation. Once I have adequate cars for some acceptable operation, then I've intended all along to begin supplementing the fleet with nicer cars like the ones you mention and like I see in Mike's fleet.

My trainset conversions will never be contest material, but, I never had such thoughts from the git-go. What I do think about them is that they'll be "good enuf" for the role they are intended to fill. PLUS, on an operational oriented layout, one must realize that all the cool little tiny details are subject to be broken off my me, as well as those that will be operating with me. Learned that a long time ago when I began to host operating sessions on my tri-level layout. (My diesels have only enough detail to look acceptable, and those details are of the durable type.)

Wow... I have a lot of things to think about with the equipment. Going to have to apply myself to developing a numbering system/etc, for both rolling stock and engines. The time that such will be needed is getting here in a hurry.

All fer now.

Andre



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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/05/2019 :  7:40:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guess I'm snake-bit in regards to ME Small Spikes. Received part of my order today. Only one pack. I guess that's all they had. SO... I've found a place in Spokane WA (of all places), and ordered two more packs. What I don't use on my Ozark layout, I will eventually use on my KC switching layout.

What a pain in the patootey.

Anyway... out to the Ozarks and lay some track!

Andre



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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/06/2019 :  09:37:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Psst... hey buddy... wanna' see some shapely TOC19 girlies?

Here 'ya go... enjoy you some train porn...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZZ2BafUa0k&fbclid=IwAR1-Nsp7o5Pa-Elo8K5i8IqS-AtF-GsmVQ-K_fBG2Ndm83Z6SANyF4QPafI

Andre



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railman28
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Posted - 07/06/2019 :  4:35:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Isn't she petty. Yea, all three of them.

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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/06/2019 :  4:54:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Perv!

Agree completely! I like the Glenbrook, Inyo and the #25. In fact, all along I've hoped to come up with a good looking Ten Wheeler on an MDC frame (Pocher or old Bachmann boiler and maybe cab)... but I may end up (or in addition to) making one similar to the #25 using the Mantua frame as a starting point.

It's all good.

Gotta' get cleaned up and go to a wedding. Pouring rain, right now! Hope it's not an outside affair!

Andre



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railman28
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Posted - 07/06/2019 :  7:22:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If we can ever get somebody to make a 19th century 10 wheeler I hope it follows Sierra #3. Yes with the domes totally removable and an extended smoke box(you know with a line we can cut down to make a wood burner). Hey when you dream, dream big.

Bob


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OK Hogger
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Posted - 07/06/2019 :  7:42:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, Bob, I don't want to sound negative, but I think we're SOL in regards to a major mfg'er coming out with a 19th century Ten Wheeler.

Ten Wheelers and the Ozarks:

There were lots of them in the Ozarks on several railroads, more so than Moguls. And some of them were gorgeous like this Rogers product of 1880 that ran on the Frisco:



The optimum for my theme would be to have a good fleet of Ten Wheelers along with a few Moguls and Consols. (And the aging 4-4-0's)

However, it would appear that I will have five 4-4-0's, some Moguls, and Consols... and very few (if any) Ten Wheelers.

The Ten Wheeler idea is dependent on what I can come up with. An MDC frame/geared one would be more attainable than my idea of also having a Mantua-based one. The Mantua Ten Wheeler idea is more in jeopardy now that NWSL is shutting down, for I was going to do some experimenting to find the best gear tower/motor combo and go with that. That really won't be an option by the time I'm ready to tackle it.

All fer now!

Andre



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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 07/07/2019 :  07:14:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It would indeed be nice to have a rtr ten wheeler available. Pickings are slim in brass too.

However, consolidations are appropriate pulling freight in the mountains.

Mike



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