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sgtbob
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Posted - 06/17/2016 :  1:31:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frank and Greg, thanks for your posts.

KP - The vinyl has a dull flat finish and I just tried some weathering powder on a scrap and it adheres quite well. That is what I am going to use.

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Bob, how difficult is it to cut the vinyl and shape it around the intricate pieces, since it has adhesive on the backside. This is the trick, that needs to be explained'...to us armatures'...



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sgtbob
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Ted, No problem at all.

The most basic form, just a square of Taskboard.

1. cut a piece of the printed vinyl bigger in all directions than the square.

2. remove the backing and place it down on your workbench, sticky side up.

3. carefully place the square of taskboard down onto the sticky surface approximately in the
center and press it down. The only time you have to be careful is when you are using something
like bricks printed on the vinyl in which case you must try to be sure the mortar lines line up
with the edges to keep things square.

4. with a small scissors, cut away a square of vinyl at each corner so that you can wrap the
flaps on top and bottom around the square and press to the backside and then do the same for
the two sides.

The result is a square of taskboard that has the front surface covered with vinyl and all four
sides covered as well. You can expand that to any shape. The idea is to cover the front side
and not leave any unexposed edges, don't worry at that time about the back side.

For openings such as windows and doors you have some choices depending on shape.

Let's say you have the vinyl in place and it covers a window opening in the taskboard. If the
window is rectangular you can simply use a knife to cut the vinyl with a "X" from corner to
corner and fold the flaps around to the backside thereby covering the window edges. If you are
going to add a sill or if the top of the window is an arch, cut the vinyl straight across at the
bottom and top of the window opening and then cut a line straight down through the vinyl top
to bottom and centered between the sides. That leaves you with two flaps to press around the
sides of the window opening onto the backside. Then you can cut another piece of vinyl to
cover the bottom of the opening as a sill and cover the arch as I already described. If that's
not clear let me know and I will try to expand my tutorial.
Cheers,
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I forgot to mention that the stuff sticks so well you can put it on in pieces if you are careful to keep the mortar lines aligned.

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quartergauger48
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Posted - 06/17/2016 :  11:26:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bob', Very nice explanation'. Thanks for taking the time describing your technique;.. I figured as much, Just wanted to ensure I was on the right track'...


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Thanks Ted. Speaking about being on the right track...................................
For all those looking for new ideas for their model railroads. check here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA_r30TNBKI

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The next move on this structure was to move to the inside. Back in the day on this structure,
industrial buildings almost always had many large windows and were painted white inside, all
to collect as much natural light as possible. I made the inner walls the same way I made the
outer walls, pieces of Taskboard covered with printed bricks on vinyl. In this case I found a
sample of white painted bricks on the textures.com web site. Now that's quite
different from white bricks, with painted bricks everything is white, bricks and mortar. The
sample I downloaded is quite good in that you really can see only the shadows of the bricks
and mortar. I was able to get many copes of this texture lined up to fill a whole sheet at 1/24
scale. It is however very hard for me to photograph.





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I could have made the interior walls with the same layers as the outer walls but I didn't, I
eliminated both the strip at the top and the layer with the large arch. you can go either way.

Here's the way I had them go together, starting with the bottom wall in this photo and moving
upward:



outer wall layers:
1.top trim strip of bricks
2.pilaster layer
3.large arch layer
4.window opening layer

window layers
5.holes cut slightly smaller than layer 4 to represent window frames
6.hole cut slightly smaller than layer 5 to represent window. includes mullions.
7.clear plastic layer to represent glass
8.same as layer 6
9.same as layer 5

inner wall layers (of course these will have the printed bricks facing the inside of the
structure.
10.same as layer 4 but white bricks
11.same as layer 2 but white bricks

When you get all 11 layers glued together and dried overnight under weights you end up with an
extremely strong (board like) wall about a scale foot and a half thick.






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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 06/19/2016 :  09:35:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Beautiful work, Bob. I like what you're dong with this new medium.

Mike


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quartergauger48
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I agree Bob. You sure cut those arches perfectly'. Nice detailed presentation of instructions'. Have printed out and will be applied to upcoming project'...


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Guff
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Posted - 06/19/2016 :  12:00:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning, Bob
Very impressive approach with the inner, window and outer wall sections. I always learn something new from you!
Thanks for the how to,
Dave



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sgtbob
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Mike, Ted, and Dave, thanks for your comments.

The back wall is pretty plain, It will never be seen from the outside but I did cover it with
brick sheets both inside and out. This joining of the four layered walls results in a very
strong structure. Of course, if you are making a building that could be seen from all directions,
that back wall should be constructed with all the layers just as the front gable wall. In my
case I just needed to be able to support the roof.

Being able to wrap some brick material around the corners makes hiding the join very easy.






I have built similar structures before using printed paper brick sheets and I must say again,
using the vinyl sheets cannot be beat, they work fantastically. A bit more expensive than
using paper but really not much when compared to using most other materials and certainly much cheaper
than any kit you could find.

Bob



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Nicely done, Bob!

Apparently I've been asleep at the switch or somewhere else lately. What's the purpose of this little gem? Machine shop?

Pete
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sgtbob
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Posted - 06/20/2016 :  11:41:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pete, It had no purpose, just wanted to make a little brick building. Since then I have decided
it will be a blacksmith shop.

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Michael Hohn
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Bob,

That's a pretty high-class blacksmith shop. Mr. Smyth must be enjoying a good trade.

Mike


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