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quartergauger48
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Posted - 08/16/2015 :  4:55:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds great Bob. I'll be waiting anxiously as usual. I could use a barn on my layout. Just haven't found the right one to build......your new project could be the one to use as an example.


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sgtbob
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  3:04:27 PM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Ted.

Well, here's a start. In the upper left is a card pattern for the stone sides. You can't really work
it out in pencil on the actual material because it's so soft the pencil digs right in.

The two sides are cut out of the MFP-5 and the ventilation slits cut in as well as the owl holes near the peak (a family of barn owls will keep down the rodent population).

One end also has a doorway to the stable area.

That piece of GatorBoard with the MFP-5 strips will become the back wall of the forebay and I
will make a styrene master for the Dutch type stable doors that will fit between those "stone" posts.

It will most likely be a while until I post more photos, I'll be using my spare minutes carving stones.

Bob





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Bill Gill
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  3:52:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another neat structure, Bob, I be watching as always I don't know a lot about Pennsylvania Dutch barns, will yours be a hay barn? cows? mixed use?


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sgtbob
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  4:23:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bill, The PA German Barn is a two level structure. The lower floor is stabling for horses and
livestock, the upper floor is sectioned in three, the two side areas store hay and grain and the
middle is for equipment storage and used as a threshing floor. Some folks even dance there!!

Cheers,
Bob


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Orionvp17
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  4:26:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is going to be fun to see come together, Bob!

Have at it, and don't be bashful about "partially finished" photos!

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Ray Dunakin
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  10:48:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ray Dunakin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very interesting!


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quartergauger48
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Posted - 08/18/2015 :  10:59:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Bob don't be bashful about half finished work progress photos.
I am looking forward to seeing your carving of the stones. I have some Balsa foam
and I want to see how you are going to do it as you model in larger scale and that is
helpful to me as an O Gauger...



Ted

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sgtbob
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Posted - 08/19/2015 :  11:24:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Pete, Ray, and Ted, thanks for posting.

I am taking a side trip from making stone walls and working on the styrene masters for several
types of doors and windows that I will need for this model. As I cut each styrene "plank" I
slightly bevel each front edge to make individual planks stand out when painted. I then
rub each with course sandpaper to simulate wood grain. I am not making a model of any particular
barn, just borrowing (or stealing) details from many.

As a point of interest, PA German Barns were in the classification of "bank barns" which means
that they were built along a bank so that access to the lower stable could be made from one side
and then going up the bank access could be gained to the upper level. If the bank was not
steep or high enough or if there was no bank, an earthen ramp was made to the upper level. Most
commonly it was a combination of the two, bank and ramp.

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quartergauger48
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Posted - 08/19/2015 :  8:46:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bob for the explanation on the "Bank Barn". It's so great to learn something
new almost every time I log into this forum from great members and talented craftsman
like yourself.



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Ray Dunakin
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Posted - 08/19/2015 :  10:15:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ray Dunakin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by quartergauger48

Thanks Bob for the explanation on the "Bank Barn". It's so great to learn something
new almost every time I log into this forum from great members and talented craftsman
like yourself.



I agree!



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sgtbob
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Posted - 08/20/2015 :  08:43:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ted and Ray, thanks for your posts.



Here are the styrene masters for the window and doors I will need for this build. I only need
one of the separate door below so I do not need to include it in the rubber mold. On each of
these I built the outer frame and then cut styrene boards to fit. Before I cemented them in
place I slightly beveled the outer edged so that the individual boards would not get lost under
the paint. I then rubbed each with course sandpaper to look like wood grain. The hinge
straps, handles, and latches were made from scraps of styrene and then the straps were
drilled at each point where they crossed a board. Next I glued short lengths of styrene rod into
each hole to represent the bolt heads.

Those two curved pieces are trim to go above the winnowing doors and the windows.

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Posted - 08/24/2015 :  11:48:39 AM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, I got caught in my own trap. I am visualizing a large barn but in fact I am
building a smaller barn. When I lay some of the resin castings on a mock-up of the barn front,
the doors are OK but the windows and trim look too big (they can be used in some later
project but not this one). I made a set of smaller windows from styrene strips.
All the casting is done.

Sorry for not posting more but it will be a while until I get all the stone carved and for a
guy who does not watch much TV I have been glued to the TV watching the Little League World
Series. I normally would be watching because I used to coach baseball and I really enjoy
watching these young men but in addition, we have a local team that has a very good shot at going
all the way.

More later.

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Ensign
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Posted - 08/24/2015 :  12:51:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Bob, I've been away up north again, and have missed the start of your latest bank barn building project.
If you need a hand with raising the barn beams, I know some good Mennonites in my area that can help out.
I hope your local little league baseball team wins the series!

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sgtbob
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Posted - 08/26/2015 :  1:33:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit sgtbob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Greg,



Here are some of the stone pillars between the stable doors. The MFP-5 seems softer than balsa
foam. Years ago a really watery clear resin as sold to brush on to harden the surface to
protect it from damage. I tried three coats of Gesso on a test piece and it looks like it will
work quite well to form a hard shell before painting.

I have more photos to post but I am having a problem downloading them. It looks like it's the
download cable so I have ordered a replacement. I have plenty of stones to carve to keep me busy anyway.

Bob


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Bill Gill
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Posted - 08/26/2015 :  3:41:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ROCK ON, Bob! Looking good. Hope your new cable solves the photo problem so can keep up with your progress.


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