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Tim Kerkhoff
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Posted - 12/14/2006 :  8:26:01 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Whew I am getting tired, and the layout is calling. Sorry the photo's are a little dark.

The last two photos are of Rock Springs area that I talked about in my first post. There are buildings that will go right along quite a bit of the backdrop. This is where the horizon line doesn't show. Therefore we could paint some land in between the hills and the layout. Once the buildings are in place I will have Victor touch up the areas where the roads will be. We might even do some cutouts and glue them to the wall. But I will still have him paint off of them to help blend them in.
Perhaps Ken this might work for your backdrop, or a smaller version.

The height from the layout to the top of the hills is approx 12". Its about 10" on the left hand end and 17" on the farthest right end, whcih you can not see in these pictures.





For those who do not like clouds, there isn't many here.

Any thougths or suggestions are welcome. I really enjoy exploring what can be created by trying new techniques. If any has anything to add, please feel free.



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Marken
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Posted - 12/15/2006 :  3:32:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for taking the time and posting Tim.

I'm going to have to read this a few times to get everything to sink in. This back-drop stuff is greek to me...maybe I should be collecting coins or something


In memory of Mike Chambers

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Tim Kerkhoff
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Posted - 12/15/2006 :  4:34:52 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ken,

Its easier to think about it than it is for me to explain it. If I can help in anyway, don't hesitate to ask.

We must be the only ones reading the backdrop thread......lol.....or I bored everyone to death.



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Tabooma County Rwy
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  3:24:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim, you never bore me! I always enjoy your posts. Great work on the backdrops - you and Victor sure have a great knack for blending the backdrop with the foreground!


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Mike Hamer
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  5:24:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Tim. Looking great as always. Hey, how far along the layout are you with scenery? How much scenicked and how much left to do? Tell Victor how impressed we are with his talents...you both make a great team!

Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://www.bostonandmaine.blogspot.ca
http://www.craftsmanstructures.blogspot.ca
http://modelrailroadsivisit.blogspot.ca

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Tim Kerkhoff
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Posted - 12/17/2006 :  6:30:02 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Al, and Mike,

I will make certain that I pass it along to Victor. The blending is something that has evolve and will continue as there is not one way that works for every scene.

Mike, That is a good question about how far along I am. I never really thought about it much. Many areas have the hardshell or liftouts installed. maybe 50-60%. When it comes to structures, I need to build, build, and build as you cannot finish scenes without them. Structures are maybe 10-15%. When it comes to really completed scenes my best guess is 25%.

I am sure everyone has there own way of measuring this, but its hard for me, to say its complete until all the details are in place.



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LVN
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Posted - 01/21/2007 :  7:30:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just was over to Michel Boucher's Deleware and Hudson in HO scale. A fantastic branch line railroad that has great operations, fast clock, timetables and scenery. He has recently expanded his layout and removed a coal mine from a small location near a tunnel entrance and he asked me to teach him how to paint backdrops. So with my trusty yellow and black tubes of acrylic and my fan brush and 3 inch brush; I went over today. Three hours of fun teaching Michel was a pleasure. The results are below.



Here is a closeup of the technique. Just a loose mix of black and yellow (makes green consistant with ground foam greens) be sure to start with yellow and add different amounts of black. Do not mix thoroughly. Variation is what makes it work. Mostly done with one inch verticle up strokes with the three inch damp and cheap brush. The big foreground trees are all black, dabbed in with the fan brush. Start at the top of the tree use light virticle dabs. As you move down the tree change to horizontal position of bristles and dab center left and right widen as you go down to base.



When we were done we ran the PAs by to get a feel for the look.



Track side perspective



Looking forward to the progress as Michel ventures into the art of basckdrop painting on the rest of his layout. Maybe he may leave a spot for me to do a bit as well



Chris Lyon
http://www.lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com

Edited by - LVN on 06/30/2007 9:03:57 PM

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Mike Hamer
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Posted - 01/26/2007 :  5:31:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great going, Chris! I know Michel will have appreciated all the time you spent with him. He is a true ambassador to the hobby and his layout is spectacular!

Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://www.bostonandmaine.blogspot.ca
http://www.craftsmanstructures.blogspot.ca
http://modelrailroadsivisit.blogspot.ca

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Tyson Rayles
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Posted - 01/26/2007 :  5:53:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only 2 colors and 2 types of brushes but such a great looking finished product!

Mike

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MarkF
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Posted - 01/26/2007 :  10:08:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, really! And that track side shot really puts it into perspective. Very nice work!

Mark

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LVN
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  07:16:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just to show you what can happen with three hours of teaching and active participation. Michel...on his own made his first attempt to do some backdrop painting...all by himself. He did a great job getting the variation in greens and the application of the hills with the small one inch upstrokes using the three inch brush was marvi. His attempts at the foreground trees demonstrates he has the idea of how to use the fan brush and there is uniformity in the dabs indicating equal pressure and application. With a little more boldness and variation in dab pressure he will definitely get better. There is no problem here as you can always go back in and repaint over the foreground trees and all will be well. Bravo Michel. He and his buds went to the Springfield Show this weekend and I will be visiting his layout next Tuesday. Then we can discuss his work and I am sure he will be back at it immediately. He proudly took photos of his work and I thought I would share them with you so you can really see the technique can be done easily.






Chris Lyon
http://www.lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com

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LVN
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  07:19:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit LVN's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks very much for the great comments. I encourage everyone to give this a try. Just get some masonite and give it a practice go. This Technique and expand your layout for miles into the horizon. Great for shelf layout applications

Chris Lyon
http://www.lyonvalleynorthern.blogspot.com

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anbhurst
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Posted - 01/27/2007 :  10:22:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim, & Others who have contributed to this thread,

Thanks so much for sharing your work with us. My live-in artist and I continue to be amazed by what we see and what we are learning here. This week, I spent some time assembling three backdrop frames which we will be using for my small 5'X 9' layout. Hopefully, by Summer, we will see some paint hit the canvas. Tim, your sun behind the clouds is to die for! That's one beautiful backdrop.

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Originally posted by trussman

. . .The sun behind clouds scene has been on the wish list for a long long time. . .


Allen
Modeling the East in the West on the Northeastern Pacific RIM, Oregon, that is!

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RichBeau
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  09:28:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been on a search for some backdrop material and of course I knew I'd find a good thread here on RR-L. Here's two links that should be in this thread...

Terry (teejay) mentions this company in another somewhere else. They're definitely worth taking a look at...
http://www.sceniking.com

Someone told me about these folks. Apparently they were selling their CDs on a twofer special at the Springfield show...
http://www.geocities.com/larcproducts/

--Rich B.



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Tabooma County Rwy
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Posted - 02/11/2007 :  1:24:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rich, what did you think of the Geocities stuff? It's pretty hard to tell from the low resolution thumbnail images they have on their website.....


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