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wesleybeks
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  08:29:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its looking great Bill. Still awaiting my shack from Brett so i can get started.


Edited by - wesleybeks on 04/20/2011 07:41:17 AM

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Geezer
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  09:04:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Gents -
Frederic - I don't quite understand which way
you think I should go on the tanks. Here in the
US, the tanks dont rust...at least none of the
sets of tanks I ever used did....And as far as
colors go, once again in the US, the Oxygen were
green, the Actylene were nearly always black, and
some companys painter thier tanks blue or red.
As far as them being on the ground, just trying
to show a bit of laziness on the part of ol Vergil...
The picture don't do the scene justice, as where
there is no paint on the tank, a rich dark patina
shows through. I will try to take a close up.....
Thanks for all comments and advice....much appreciated!



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visman48
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  11:21:54 AM  Show Profile  Visit visman48's Homepage  Click to see visman48's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frederic,
I think I must agree with Geez, I am only aware of 2 colors green and red for welding gases...of todays type, not sure what happened in the 30s and 40s. I must admit that ol' virgil is being lazy and asking for a accident. I have seen a head getting broken off and the bottle becoming a missile. Those bottle don't stand well by themselves thats why we have carts.

In reality would our wood cutter really have welding gear in the woods? unless this building is part of the other group, the riggers shed, and the other one.

Les



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Locoman
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  12:08:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bill
I don't know how I missed this thread. Found it today and finally caught up on your build. You are really making some fantastic progress. As someone had already said. I appears to be amoung your best work. You are also getting some good suggestions, so I will let the experts speak for me. The only suggestion I can make is with the pictures. It appears that the dept of field is pretty short. Are you shotting with the hightest f-stop you can. Are you using a tri-pod. That way you can shot with a high f-stop and slow shutter speed. Just a thought.

Otherwise, grest work on the model.



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UKGuy
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  12:55:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I also see nothing wrong with the tanks, or their positioning Bill, the colours seem to be muted very nicely into the scene and I found the positioning quite naturally hap-hazzard. Empties awaiting a refill.

Les, yes the building resides next to the other two sheds in Bretts original diorama which in turn is part of the much larger Mill site and logging diorama. Even as a stand alone structure/diorama there could be many feasible scenarios.

Karl.A



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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  6:21:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I'll be happy to see another pic of the scene with the bottles.
The first thing that caught my eye with this scene was the blue color of some of the tanks. I'm far from being a specialist in these questions, I know that here in Europe we have some blue tanks at least for gas delivered for home cooking, but probably it is the shade of the blue that didn't fit to my eye. Now I must honestly say the weathering on it appears clearly on the picture, and those who know these bottles say it's the right shade, so I'll withdraw my comment on it.
The second point concerns the angle of some of the bottles. Considering the tendency these things have to roll, I would think that, by themselves they would roll to horizontal, or they would stay in the vertical position a human being has given them. So I think I may not withdraw this part of the comment.



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UKGuy
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  8:22:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frederic Testard

The second point concerns the angle of some of the bottles. Considering the tendency these things have to roll, I would think that, by themselves they would roll to horizontal, or they would stay in the vertical position a human being has given them. So I think I may not withdraw this part of the comment.




As previously noted, I can imagine these things would be difficult to keep up right. Due to their hieght and small foot print by comparison.

The tanks in the picture all appear to be leaning on or supported by some other physical object. Be it a wall, another tank or some other piece of machinery.

Given the difficulty of standing these things up self supported, let alone on uneven ground I would have to say that they all look natural in their positions.

All of the tanks appear to be supported by, or leaning on 'something' or each other in such a way that any 'roll' would be eliminated. It strikes me personally as a well thought out arrangement that looks casual, and plausible.
However it looks random enough not to look contrived.

Casually discarded empties placed in an area for refill, some fell over, some propped up against the sled/hoist or wall and still more added later against those.

Looks great to me.

Karl.A



Edited by - UKGuy on 04/19/2011 9:33:06 PM

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UKGuy
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  8:25:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Looking back at the pic it seems Bill took some time in arranging these to be logical but also natural, I still dont see a flaw. Each ones position makes sense.

Karl.A



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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/19/2011 :  9:12:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UKGuy

Looking back at the pic it seems Bill took some time in arranging these to be logical but also natural, I still dont see a flaw. Each ones position makes sense.

Karl.A



I've bumped into Bill at several train shows ... or, rather, he's bumped into me ... sometimes 6-8 times at the same show. So, at this point, I'm just amazed at how incredibly coordinated he seems to be when he just sits still and focuses on something!

(It really does look good, Bill. Look forward to bumping into you again in the fall!)


Cheers,
Dallas

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Geezer
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  05:34:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good Morning all....I will take some more
pictures of the tanks this morning....
I also have another idea for another mini scene,
and will be looking for your comments on that is well....
Gonna go fix some coffee & wait for the sun to come up...
I really appreciate all the help guys!!!



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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  06:30:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, now reading all these answers makes me feel a bit uncomfortable since I have the impression I may have hurt some people with my comment about these bottles, which leads me to feel this lazy Vergil is a problem if he can create such misunderstandings between good friends.
In any case, my impression about the will of roll of these bottles when left far from vertical seems to be wrong, so I won't hold on it. Be sure making this comment was aimed at constructive criticism and not at nitpicking which you've certainly noticed I'm not an adept of.




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Geezer
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  08:40:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good morning, again....Frederic: My toes are all in good order. I don't feel that you or anyone else has tramped on them, hurting my feelings. Enough said.
Here is the best I can do without a tripod:

I tried to show mild rusting/weathering, and a bit of abuse. I suppose that someday, virgil will get around to standing them up. Probably when ol' Fred gets over here with the truck to take the tanks for refill. Being a woodsman, Virgil only putters in the metal end of the shop, generally using that equipment for his own repairs.

In the above picture, I have tried to get a good
depth of field. I raised the stop quite a bit - and still with no tripod (Its up at the lake of course). I will continue to learn how to use my camera.....I hope ist better anyway.

Progress on the scratch welding cart.....

I been thinkin that Virgil although not very tidy, is however a clean type of guy....and, Mrs. Virgil really needs something to do around the shack.....
I'll be back with more later....Thanks for looking in on the geezer!



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Tommatthews
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  08:58:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geezer,

Your welding cart set-up looks good. The bends in the frame (wire) are nice and even.

If I hang around long enough I might even get an egg or two.


Tom M.

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visman48
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  10:26:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit visman48's Homepage  Click to see visman48's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Geez,
Your photography is improving too!!! I use a photograph to see into my scene for things the eye misses or averages. The cart looks good and I think I saw a egg by one of the clumps of grass.

Keep working, keep looking, thinking about each part and each object, where its at in the scene, and what it is and what it does. YOU are on the right track.

Les



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Locoman
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Posted - 04/20/2011 :  10:29:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geezer, much better pictures.

I think the tanks by the shed must be empty, since some of the caps are gone and the way they are scattered around, feels right for the scene.

As for the color of the tanks, they arn't bad.
from one web site that i found, the This is the acetylene tank, looks more birds egg blue.



and this is the oxygen tank.



The scene is really looking great, Bill.



Edited by - Locoman on 04/20/2011 10:42:49 AM

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