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Country: USA | Posts: 1872 Joe-SVL Section Hand Posted - 02/11/2019 :  5:11:54 PM       I'm wondering if anybody has had their cars Merit Judged lately and if so have the Merit Award Judges been lenient at all wrt the size of the brass wire used for the piping etc. of the brake system. There seems to be an absolute dirth of 0.015" and 0.022" brass wire these days. I do ave a good supply of 0.012" and some 0.019" brass wire which it looks like I'm going to have to use. Does anybody see any problem with using the 0.012" and 0.019" wire w/o being penalized? thanks Joe Country: USA | Posts: 60 mwbpequod Fireman Posted - 02/11/2019 :  7:07:25 PM     Unless you're grossly out of scale, I doubt that there's a problem - they are not going to have a micrometer handy. It's by eye and by golly that looks about right. That you have it at all and it's in correct or at least plausible locations connected reasonably correct should be adequate. I honestly never worried about using a size other than "that's looking ok". To act in the world is the only way to understand it. In this life it is given only to God and his angels and poets to be lookers-on. Country: USA | Posts: 1872 BurleyJim Fireman Premium Member Posted - 02/11/2019 :  11:27:13 PM     What Martin said. Jim Country: USA | Posts: 4056 jbvb Fireman Premium Member Posted - 02/12/2019 :  08:36:09 AM       I didn't buy any, but I saw that Tichy brought a full rack of their phosphor bronze modeling wire to the Amherst Club show last month. They sell both pieces about 6" and pieces about 36", though the latter will be inefficient to ship safely. Country: USA | Posts: 5770 Michael Hohn Fireman Posted - 02/12/2019 :  10:34:47 AM       Joe, I think if you checked other modelers and the better kits you’d find variability in wire sizes used for brake rigging. For instance, the Tichy box car kit uses 0.010 wire for brake rods and 0.020 for train line and brake staff. Mike _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Nobody living can ever stop me, as I go walking that freedom highway -- Woody Guthrie Country: USA | Posts: 4674 Joe-SVL Section Hand Posted - 02/12/2019 :  6:05:18 PM       Grab Iron Standoff I've found some pretty good information wrt the width of grab irons; but I haven't seen any information wrt the standoff distance of the grab iron from the side of a car. Any help would be appreciated. Joe Country: USA | Posts: 60 mwbpequod Fireman Posted - 02/15/2019 :  09:40:42 AM     I think both width and stand off distance is pretty variable and if you use the pre-formed wire or brass castings for grabs that set both of these dimensions that no one will ever argue on this dimension. To act in the world is the only way to understand it. In this life it is given only to God and his angels and poets to be lookers-on. Country: USA | Posts: 1872 Michael Hohn Fireman Posted - 02/15/2019 :  11:30:40 AM       When gluing grabs in place I usually slip a scale 2” piece of styrene under the grab. The resulting standoff looks right to me. Mike Country: USA | Posts: 4674 Joe-SVL Section Hand Posted - 02/17/2019 :  2:52:34 PM       AB Brake kits I'm installing my first Cal-Scale AB Brake system and need some hole. I bought the brass version of Cal-Scale brake system and am trouble drilling holes to more securely hold the various size wires I plan on using for the piping. Has anybody had success with drilling into the brass pieces of the Ca-Scale set; OR have people generally used the Cal-Scale plastic AB brake system kit? thanks Joe Country: USA | Posts: 60 BurleyJim Fireman Premium Member Posted - 02/17/2019 :  8:23:39 PM     Joe, Drilling into a brass casting is difficult, especially for the diameter carbide drill you would use. Brass is much harder than aluminum or 'pot metal'. Use the plastic, once it's painted nobody knows or measures a Rockwell number. Jim Country: USA | Posts: 4056 mwbpequod Fireman Posted - 02/18/2019 :  09:21:15 AM     quote: Drilling into a brass casting is difficult, especially for the diameter carbide drill you would use. Brass is much harder than aluminum or 'pot metal'. Use the plastic, once it's painted nobody knows or measures a Rockwell number. If you're using a pin vise to drill brass, you're going to be there close to forever and will probably end up breaking a few drill bits, too. If you have a small drill press, this gets a lot easier a lot faster. If you have the option of plastic castings that are good, go there. If they look right, then they are right. To act in the world is the only way to understand it. In this life it is given only to God and his angels and poets to be lookers-on. Country: USA | Posts: 1872 jbvb Fireman Premium Member Posted - 02/23/2019 :  4:02:03 PM       I've drilled quite a few #78 and finer holes in brass and plated brass passenger car sides without a lot of difficulty. Patience, a quality HSS drill & pin vise, maybe a tiny bit of oil for lube. It won't go fast. Country: USA | Posts: 5770 Joe-SVL Section Hand Posted - 02/26/2019 :  09:24:53 AM       Thank you for your inputs on using plastic AB brake kits instead of the Cal-Scale brass kits. I've just returned two brass kits to Walthers and will be ordering 4 more plastic ones to go along with the plastic kits I bought along with two brass kits some time last year. If anybody would like the two brass kits I have I'll be glad to mail them to you. One of the reservoirs has one or two #78 holes drilled into it. Question: When the main brake line crosses from one side of the under frame thru/under the center sill is the angle that the brake line subtends a standard angle such as 45-degrees? IS the angle subtended a "detail" point that the judges look for? thanks Joe Country: USA | Posts: 60 BurleyJim Fireman Premium Member Posted - 02/26/2019 :  10:05:48 AM     I don't. Joe, I applaud your absolute attempt at strict adherence to exactness. I really hope you are getting some enjoyment out of building these models. Take one of your cars, have it 'evaluated' by some of the folks in your Division. Fill out the paperwork Forms 901 and 902. See how the evaluation is done. You are allowed to be there, it's not a 'contest'!. They should ask questions of you if they have any, and afterwards they write comments on the various areas that are evaluated. The whole purpose is to encourage you to be the best modeler you can be. If the model doesn't gather a Merit Award, you should have pointers to get you there. I've had cars that have 'failed' the exam. With the tips and comments received, everyone of them with just a little tweak here and there passed. How you present the model (write up) is important. Describe what you intend to show. Don't go into so much detail, that the evaluators think their "heads are about to explode". I've judged at the past two National Convention Contests and am planning on doing it again in Salt Lake City. We all learn by doing. Relax, and enjoy the ride. Jim Edited by - BurleyJim on 02/26/2019 10:07:14 AM Country: USA | Posts: 4056 Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 of 11 Topic    New Topic |    New Poll |   Reply to Topic |  Previous Page | Next Page Jump To: Select Forum Railroad Line Administrative Forums       Forum News       Administrative Posts General Forums       WorkShops, Garage, Machines and Tools       The Tour Bus       The Arrival Track       RR-L Member Personal Websites       The Crew Lounge       The Classroom       Interchange Tracks       Rail Events       Reference & Research Model Railroad Forums       The Sn3 Branch       Mike Chambers' Craftsman's Corner       HOn30 and HOn3 Forum       Early Rail Forum       Dead Rail Forum       The On30 Line       Railroad Photography Forum       Small Scale Model Railroad Forum       Mid Scale Model Railroad Forum       Large Scale Model Railroad Forum       Logging, Mining, & Narrow minded       Model Railroad Construction       Micro & Mini Layouts       Layout Design / Operation Sig Forum       Startin' from Scratch       DCC, Computers and Electronics for Model Railroads Shop Talk       Vehicle and Non-Rail Transportation Modeling       The Steam Shop       The Roundhouse       Rolling Stock: the Car Shops       The Diesel Shop Company Store       Railroad-Line Swap Meet       New Product Announcements Fallen Flag Railroad Forums       Erie / Lackawanna Railroad Forum       Raritan River Railroad Forum Railroad Software Forums       Atlas Right Track Software       Railroad Line Software Library Model Railroad Club Forums       The Model Railroad Club Forum Sponsor Forums       Rusty Stumps Scale Models       KingMill Enterprises Railroad Line Weblinks       Badger Creek Lumber Co.       Central Missouri & Southern RR       Raritan River Railroad       Thor's All Gauge Page  -------------------- Home Active Topics Frequently Asked Questions Member Information Search Page Railroad Line Forums © 2000-19 Railroad Line Co.
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