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scotchpine
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  09:53:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys!
About the fur material: I hope it is not too "thin"+ not heavy enough to fall down over the sprayglued "twigs"
When to light the fibers will be stucked/ stick together ...I wont say and It can't be done !! BUT you have to use the tweezer very very often to get rid of the to many fine thin fibers...
But give it a try anyway ...may be you can create a superdetailed tree! I do have some plans to do so, I mean with fur fibers...
but time ...always not enough time

Jos



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flatsguide
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  12:26:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jos,
thank you for taking the time and effort to explain how you create those lovely trees. This is one of the best tutorials ever.
Thank you.

Regards Richard



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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  1:09:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fabulous, Jos.



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flatsguide
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  1:34:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Important is: when done the fibers: add also some very fine grassfibers over the aquariumfibers!
like overhere at this tree:"

Jos are the the "grassfibers" you speak of?
http://www.sceneryexpress.com/products.asp?dept=1230

What size would you reccomend/suggest for HO,
2,4, or 6mm or a combination of all three?
Thank you very much.

Regards, Richard



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scotchpine
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  5:45:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Frederic and Richard!

Richard:
Yes those grassfibers can be used too!
Try to use grassfibers that compares with the leaves you'r adding! Mostly I use a darker color for the fibers and grassfibers , as the leaves are alittle bit lighter.....( sometimes I spray the fibers, when glued on the frame, with a darker color)
Also you can use a kind of "burnt grass"fibers foor more mediteranian shrubs and trees...
About the length:
First( mostly for HO trees) I add the aquariumfilterfibers: not to much just "some".....( cutted in small parts of less than 1/2 an inch!) than the long fibers , about 6 mm and last: the fine ones( 2mm)these small 2 mm fibers are added to make the chance bigger/larger that the leaves will be/can be glued to the filterfibers . with other words: the filterfibers and the tall and small grassfibers are actualy the twigs and small twigs of the tree at wich the leaves are glued/ growing...and give the twigs+ leaves an irregular look

the small arrows are the 2 mm grassfibers I added on the filterfibers....
It is all a matter of try and , sometimes, error
Also taste is involved in this matter

Jos

Jos



Edited by - scotchpine on 11/18/2009 5:48:05 PM

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flatsguide
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Posted - 11/18/2009 :  8:11:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jos,
I understand the principle now.

Hartelijk dank,
Richard



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scotchpine
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Posted - 12/11/2009 :  5:24:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cannot stop making trees..
Here the last ones..
"somewhere in the Rocky Mountains..."
For 2 years many trees were cutted down. Only few could stay...al alone...waitinf for the young ones!




Jos



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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 12/11/2009 :  5:43:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice shots, Jos. They show that your technique works well also for trees with a more sparse foliage.



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scotchpine
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Posted - 12/11/2009 :  6:11:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Frederic!
here a close-up of one of the trees...
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]
the tric is to use less turf...better to do carefuly 2 layers of this fine turf than to overdo it in one that is to much!

Jos



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scotchpine
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  4:51:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My name as "scotchpine" wasn't choosen because of the material I want to show you overhere I made some N scale trees
: yep SCOTCH brite
NO aquariumfibers needed anymore..only a/some pad(s) of this stuff..
I used the one to "pollish"wood. So not that rough type of pad.
I tear it in very flat pieces and after that in small pieces from about max 1/2 inch and smaller
Tear some more pieces as stock..so during the "building"of the tree you don't have to stop
To glue the small pieces I use the transparant hobbyglue.
I put the pad pieces on the branches with a tweezer and press it with my fingers after some minutes when the glue dried a litlle bit.
To immitate the leaves just use fine turf or sieved course turf/or "Blätter from NOCH"...
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]

tearing it( about) 1/2 a part:
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]
stock:
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]
glued on a big N tree/small HO tree:
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]
the endresult of a N tree( 4 inches)
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]
here the "HO side" of the tree:
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]

Jos





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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  5:26:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your ability to use this material is really impressive, Jos.



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railbuilderdhd
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Posted - 12/13/2009 :  10:05:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jos,
The trees you do are amazing. I wanted to know if the grass fibers you use are not the ones from Scenic Express that Richard mentioned before where do you get yours? Also the last trees you did, what did you place on the trees after you used the 3M Scotch Brite pads? I'm going looking for those tomorrow as I gotta try them.
Dave



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scotchpine
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Posted - 12/14/2009 :  03:28:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dave,and thanks Frederic!

Dave,I use this:

Woodland Scenics
FL636 Dark Greenfibers...
Most important is that they have to be small( 2 mm= 1/10 inch(?))
quote:
what did you place on the trees after you used the 3M Scotch Brite pads?

after I glued the small parts of the torn pad, I added some fine grassfibers( dark green) and after that the fine turf( colour: weeds)from Woodland scenics.
I don't know if the fibers are from Noch or Woodland...?
I got them from a mrr friend last year as a gift
here a more detailed picture of the N tree
You can see the small grassfibers and ,still somecoloured dark green, "scotchbritefiberpadparts".....
[URL=http://imagefra.me/][/URL]

Jos




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Munch
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Posted - 12/14/2009 :  05:59:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Jos. I'll have to pick up one of those on my morning coffee trip. Do you now recommend using the pads instead of the filter fiber?

Bred
the munch



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railbuilderdhd
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Posted - 12/14/2009 :  08:17:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jos,
Thanks you so much for going over the process you used one more time. I'll be sure I post photos of what I end up getting done. Right now I have to stop my tree building so I can return to the module I'm building as I need it done for a show 1st quarter next year. I'll use some trees in the module but it's an urban module so not a lot of trees.
Dave



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