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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 09/22/2011 :  3:05:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trent, I've just seen your comment about the time spent on the trees. I'd say that on this first one, I will have spent at least four or five hours and probably won't be that enthusiastic about its final look. But I'm sure that practice will seriously divide this time, and finally I'd say that if we could approach Jos' level, the time spent would be fully rewarded by the result.


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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/22/2011 :  4:50:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frederic Testard

I think it begins to be better.



I think that to Frederic, you start to get somewhere !!


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scotchpine
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Posted - 09/22/2011 :  5:25:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Time...yes we can write books about time and how to use it...
On the other hand, to me, trees are just as important as buildings....also the dimensions have to be like real so a big tree is as big/ high as( mostly even higher) as a normal building on a layout...and making/modelling /detailing/weathering a building is also time consuming! So why not with the same with trees?( in the right scale)
I envision/imagine my layout somewhere in a rocky environment with some trees and just some unimportant small buildings...the scenery= rocks and trees are/will be the eyecatchers on my ( future) layout and therefore it is one of the reasons why I put/spend that much amount of time to make them....
@Frederic:
I found a picture of one of my first frames made with the same ingredients I too use nowadays!
I think the picture is from 2003...and I was very proud with the results!!! can you imagine! ??lol

so don't worry you're on schedule!!

Jos



Edited by - scotchpine on 09/22/2011 5:43:45 PM

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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/23/2011 :  06:49:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scotchpine

I found a picture of one of my first frames made with the same ingredients I too use nowadays!
I think the picture is from 2003...and I was very proud with the results!!! can you imagine! ??lol



In that case we have a few years of practise in front of us

quote:
I got the sawdust( MDF) from a friend who works as a carpenter!!!He had a big order 2 years ago with a lot of MDF sheets ( +/-25 mm) which edges had to be sanded in a round shape ...so I have enough for the next 2 years!!!



Correct me if I'm wrong, you dont use a real "saw"dust but more the dust from sanding. It has to be very fine ? Because it's very easy for me that way collecting the dust from my sanders (stationary) in a seperate exhaust. What I collect in there in a year would be enough for all dutch modelers for a few years


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scotchpine
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Posted - 09/23/2011 :  07:10:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
EXACTLY Martin!!
geeze I think I never mentioned it????( he he tunnelvision ) but indeed I use the MDF sawdust from a kind of biiiig sanding tool.
On the other hand I sometimes wrote about realy saw DUST so not the coarse(?)rough sawdust that is created by using a(hand)saw(ingmachine/circular(?)
)
Thanks Martin !!

ps: @Martin
quote:
What I collect in there in a year would be enough for all dutch modelers for a few year

OK may be you can expect a pm/order soon!



Edited by - scotchpine on 09/23/2011 07:17:07 AM

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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/23/2011 :  07:46:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jos, sounds a bit crazy but I pack up some dust for Frederic..glad we don't have customs in the EU anymore, on the other hand I would love to see their faces opening a box and find 4 take away chinese boxes filled with sawdust

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closetguy
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Posted - 09/23/2011 :  08:43:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit closetguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi All
I believe MDF is pretty common now a days in most countries. I've been using it for 30 plus years. Just go and find a local cabinetmaker/woodworkers shop. The interior of his table saw is probably filled with fine dust from cutting panel products. If that doesn't work, buy a length of MDF moldings at the local Home Desperate, stick a bag onto the dust end of a small portable table saw and cut away with a fine tooth blade. 10 minutes later you'll have a pound or two of MDF dust. Ripping produces more dust than cross cutting. When I rip Thermo-foil moldings for our closet installations, the dust flies everywhere. It's really "sticky" and prolific. I should save it for tree builds myself.
Mike M



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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  11:18:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Got my parcel this morning. Thanks, Martin! This is really a great help.



Looks like a lot of great material to work with. I have never seen these blue fibers here in France. I'll take some and go to see if somebody can locate them, or I'll borrow a trailer and buy tons of it when I come in Nederlands.



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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  11:43:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You're welcome Frederic. Could find the blue fibers for Andy in England, so there must be some for sale in France. Bought mine in one of these large garden malls.
Do hope you like the fast fabricated trunks as well and that the veneers come in handy one day ...


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scotchpine
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  1:20:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Frederic and Martin....hmmm that looks familiar to me!!!
BTW Frederic and Martin please, give the fibers from "decotwister"a try !
for example:
http://www.bloemschik.nl/p1750/Deco-Twister-Mocca.aspx
chop them/cut them in small = max. 1/2 an inch and "drapper" them carefully( of course first some sprayglue over the ends of the frame) over the ends of the frame/twigs.
Don't bother about the fact that you could think that the frame looks to airy...the extra 6mm and the 2 mm fibers will take care of that!!!

Jos



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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  2:35:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Mmm Jos what about the terra and sisal as color ??

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scotchpine
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  3:47:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes of course Martin, those 2 colors can also be used !!
the "mocca"color was just as an example...
I use the terra mostly when making scotchpine trees...
Sisal may be for "dead" branches/twigs???

Jos



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milocomarty
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  4:01:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ordered them all, lightweight stuff, can put it in a envelope and send Frederic some, few stamps nothing more I think..

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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 09/30/2011 :  4:20:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Martin. I suppose I can wait a month and you'll give me them from hand to hand. And we might even go together to this paint shop to buy Old Holland acrylics. We'll have to force Troels to tell us what is to be got. Won't be in Nederlands every other morning...



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milocomarty
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Posted - 10/01/2011 :  05:15:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just received an e-mail the color mokka isn't available anymore and I ordered the last terra and sisal. We got to find us another suplier for the fibers Jos !! DaniŽlle of Bloemschik.nl quiting with this kinda materials..ordered some black and mosgreen instead..
Or should we order all she have and stack up for the future ??


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