Railroad Line Forums
Railroad Line Forums
Save Password

Forgot Password?
  Home   Forums   Events Calendar   Sponsors   Support the RRLine   Guestbook   FAQ     Register
Active Topics | Active Polls | Resources | Members | Online Users | Live Chat | Avatar Legend | Search | Statistics
Photo Album | File Lister | File Library
[ Active Members: 1 | Anonymous Members: 0 | Guests: 203 ]  [ Total: 204 ]  [ Newest Member: Alex Italy ]
 All Forums
 Shop Talk
 Rolling Stock: the Car Shops
 Trying Weathering Chalks (Pan Pastel)

Note: You must be registered in order to post a reply.
To register, click here. Registration is FREE!

 Posting Form
Format Mode:
Format: BoldItalicizedUnderlineStrikethrough Align LeftCenteredAlign Right Horizontal Rule Insert HyperlinkInsert EmailInsert Image Insert CodeInsert QuoteInsert List Spell Checker
Callouts: Insert Speech Icon: duh! Insert Speech Icon: oops! Insert Speech Icon: sigh! Insert Speech Icon: ugh! Insert Speech Icon: wow! Insert Speech Icon: yeah! Insert Speech Icon: ok! Insert Speech Icon: yes! Insert Speech Icon: no!
Message Icon:              

Alien_125 [:-alien] Angel_125 [:-angel] Angry [:(!] Apple_125 [:-apple]
Approve [^] Ashamed_125 [:-ashamed] Banghead_125 [:-banghead] Baseball_125 [:-baseball]
Basketball_125 [:-basketball] Batman_125 [:-batman] Big Smile [:D] Bigeyes_125 [:-bigeyes]
Bigeyes2_125 [:-bigeyes2] Bigmouth_125 [:-bigmouth] Black Eye [B)] Blindfold_125 [:-blindfold]
Blush [:I] Boggled_125 [:-boggled] Boring_125 [:-boring] Bouncy_125 [:-bouncy]
Brokenheart_125 [:-brokenheart] Bulb_125 [:-bulb] Bunny_125 [:-bunny] Captain_125 [:-captain]
Censored_125 [:-censored] Chef_125 [:-chef] Clock_125 [:-clock] clover_125 [:-clover]
Clown [:o)] clown_125 [:-clown] Cold_125 [:-cold] Cool [8D]
Cowboy_125 [:-cowboy] Crazy_125 [:-crazy] Cry_125 [:-cry] Cyclops_125 [:-cyclops]
Dead [xx(] Devil_125 [:-devil] Disapprove [V] Disguise_125 [:-disguise]
Dog_125 [:-dog] Doggy_125 [:-doggy] Dopey_125 [:-dopey] Drool_125 [:-drool]
Drunk_125 [:-drunk] Dunce_125 [:-dunce] Eight Ball [8] Evil [}:)]
Eyebrows_125 [:-eyebrows] Fight_125 [:-fight] Football_125 [:-football] Ghost_125 [:-ghost]
Glasses_125 [:-glasses] Gnasher_125 [:-gnasher] Goldfish_125 [:-goldfish] Golf_125 [:-golf]
Graduate_125 [:-graduate] Grumpy_125 [:-grumpy] Headache_125 [:-headache] Headphones_125 [:-headphones]
Hearts_125 [:-hearts] Hockey_125 [:-hockey] Hot_125 [:-hot] Hypnotized_125 [:-hypnotized]
Idea_125 [:-idea] Indifferent_125 [:-indifferent] Irked_125 [:-irked] Jester_125 [:-jester]
Jump_125 [:-jump] Jump2_125 [:-jump2] jumprefect_125 [:-jumprefect] King_125 [:-king]
Kisses [:X] Kitty_125 [:-kitty] Knockout_125 [:-knockout] Love_125 [:-love]
Magnify_125 [:-magnify] Masked_125 [:-masked] Mean_125 [:-mean] Mischievous_125 [:-mischievous]
Mohawk_125 [:-mohawk] Moptop_125 [:-moptop] Mouse_125 [:-mouse] Mummy_125 [:-mummy]
Nonono_125 [:-nonono] Ouch_125 [:-ouch] Paperbag_125 [:-paperbag] Party_125 [:-party]
Piggy_125 [:-piggy] Pirate_125 [:-pirate] Propeller_125 [:-propeller] Psst_125 [:-psst]
Pumpkin_125 [:-pumpkin] Question [?] Sad [:(] Scared_125 [:-scared]
Shades_125 [:-shades] Shake_125 [:-shake] Shock [:O] Shy [8)]
Sick_125 [:-sick] Sing_125 [:-sing] Skull_125 [:-skull] Slaphappy_125 [:-slaphappy]
Sleep_125 [:-sleep] Sleepy [|)] Slug_125 [:-slug] Sly_125 [:-sly]
Smgreen_125 [:-smile_green] Smile [:)] Smirk_125 [:-smirk] Snooty_125 [:-snooty]
Snorkel_125 [:-snorkel] soccer_125 [:-soccer] Sonar_125 [:-sonar] Sour_125 [:-sour]
Spin_125 [:-spin] Splat_125 [:-splat] Star_125 [:-star] Tapedshut_125 [:-tophat]
Tapedshut_125 [:-taped] Thumbdn_125 [:-thumbd] Thumbup_125 [:-thumbu] Tiger_125 [:-tiger]
Timebomb_125 [:-timebm] Toast_125 [:-toast] Tongue [:P] Tongue_125 [:-tong2]
Tophat_125 [:-tophat] Turtle_125 [:-turtle] Vampire_125 [:-vamp] Viking_125 [:-viking]
Weeping_125 [:-weepn] Williamtell_125 [:-wiltel] Wink [;)] Witch_125 [:-witch]
Xmas_125 [;-xmas] Yawn_125 [:-yawn] Yuck_125 [:-yuck]  

   -  HTML is OFF | Forum Code is ON
   Insert a File
  Check here to include your profile signature.
Check here to subscribe to this topic.

T O P I C    R E V I E W
TomPM Posted - 10/07/2020 : 5:00:42 PM
After getting back into modeling I found that I had forgotten how I did some of my weathering. The last few months I have been experimenting with different methods. I have given up on airbrushing as a method. I was growing dissatisfied with it back in the old days.

In the past and now I have used a combination of washes and dry brushing for weathering. I have used craft paints exclusively. I have had in my opinion varying degrees of success with these methods. For washes I used blue windshield washer fluid with great success. However, recently I have not been happy with it. They must have changed the formulation and I believe lowered the alcohol content. I canít prove this, but I had an old bottle and things were better than the bottle I bought earlier this year.

I was also a big fan of Folk Art paint but their color selection has been reduced in the stores around here. Gone are many of my favorites. I have tried other brands but they are usually too watery for my purposes.

I have searched YouTube and found several videos which at first seemed helpful. After trying the methods, I was left frustrated with my level of success. The videos always seem to be missing some important pre-starting step or just became boring ramblings.

I purchased a couple of books. I tend to like printed instructions. For me, the videos can be great to show something, but it is hard to repeat the instructions or in some cases find the particular technique I am looking for in a 30-minute video.

One thing that caught my eye was weathering chalks. I have tried them in the past with no luck. The car would look great until I sealed it. All the work I did would disappear. I would do multiple applications but, in the end, it looked like I did nothing.

I started to read and see examples using the newer weathering chalks. The more I researched the more I liked what I found. A couple of months ago I purchased some Pan Pastel chalks. My first attempts were to add the chalks to cars that had been previously weathered using washes.

15   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First)
tct855 Posted - 10/20/2020 : 10:44:36 AM
Great work weathering, I'm liking it! Keep'em dirty I say. One note: Don't forget those wheels. Any shots of the ends of cars? Thanx Thom...
Philip Posted - 10/08/2020 : 11:47:31 PM
Great work Tom!

quartergauger48 Posted - 10/08/2020 : 5:41:45 PM
You can't beat Pan Pastels on all surfaces..especially rolling stock'... Nice job'..

I would recommend wiping down the car with alcohol before DullKoating, what happened was you sealed the finger prints with the dullcoat.
WHen I started weathering I used Thomas Yorke's and Dr.Ben's techniques. Both were very informative.

You'll find covering the Pan Pastels with either dullcoat or alcohol will give you great and realistic results..
BurleyJim Posted - 10/08/2020 : 11:36:41 AM
They look "nasty", just like the real ones! Nice job Tom!

deemery Posted - 10/08/2020 : 08:51:40 AM
My wife would assert "It's really easy for you to think like dirt" :-) :-)

Tyson Rayles Posted - 10/08/2020 : 08:39:41 AM
Great job on the weathering!
George D Posted - 10/08/2020 : 07:27:39 AM
Interesting point on water, Tom.

TomPM Posted - 10/07/2020 : 11:24:59 PM

I use photos. I get them from the Internet, books, magazines, and my own.

Sometimes I take an educated guess. I was a civil engineer in highway design for 35 years. Understanding and observing water and how it flows and what it leaves behind was an important part of my job. Water is the biggest problem for roads, bridges, and walls. We used to do a mental exercise of following a drop of water and where it goes.

When photos don't help I fall back on that thought process and follow the path of the drop of water. What path will it take. Where is going to accumulate. Water/moisture attract dirt, dust, and grime. Water carries it from one place to another. Where water lays for long periods, rust will eventually appear.

Michael Hohn Posted - 10/07/2020 : 8:17:50 PM

What youíre doing works very well. Excellent job.

Where do you get ideas for degree and pattern of weathering?

deemery Posted - 10/07/2020 : 7:45:38 PM
I've done alcohol streaks with a soft brush and just sprayed on alcohol and let it run 'naturally'.

On wood, the Pan Pastels will sort of soak into the wood after you apply the alcohol.

tloc Posted - 10/07/2020 : 7:43:39 PM

I like what you are doing, looks good

TRAINS1941 Posted - 10/07/2020 : 7:07:54 PM
Very nice!
TomPM Posted - 10/07/2020 : 6:37:06 PM
Here is a second car I just finished. I am quickly becoming a big fan of these Pan Pastels.

TomPM Posted - 10/07/2020 : 6:33:12 PM
Originally posted by deemery

I've gotten interesting effects by applying alcohol on top of Pan Pastels.


Dave how do apply the alcohol and how much?
deemery Posted - 10/07/2020 : 5:38:40 PM
I've gotten interesting effects by applying alcohol on top of Pan Pastels.


Railroad Line Forums © 2000-2020 Railroad Line Co. Go To Top Of Page
Steam was generated in 0.2 seconds. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000