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||Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:34:08 PM
Why do you scratch build structures or rolling stock.
Remember if you peek at the results you will loose the ability to vote yourself.
Please feel free to comment or your choice or lack of choice.
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||Posted - 07/03/2019 : 12:41:40 PM
I know that most everyone here is talking about structures, but I prefer building cars. I have amassed a large collection of LaBelle, Scotia, and Juneco's, along with a few of the others out there, but frankly, I am not satisfied with the level of completion from kits. I am upping my game to extremely kitbash my cars or scratch-build them.
Since I work off of prototype photos, I want the ultimate realism, getting as close to the prototype as I can. Now I am not a prototype guru, because I know that because of the constraints of the hobby, and size, we do not have all the parts, and some parts are not accurately sizes, etc., so you have to compromise. My goal is to put it up against the picture of the prototype and have it look as close to the real thing as possible.
I want to see floor boards under the car. No one will see them, but I want them there.
I want to have the right trucks under the car, though smooth operation is a must.
I want to accurately display air lines, but I may not be able to always use the magnetic auto coupling air lines.
I want the height of the car to be correct. Width may not always be, unless a specialty.
I want the hardware to be correct: Doors, grab irons/ladders, brake wheel, etc.
I want graphics to be correct. (Oh I miss Art Griffin decals).
I would like each car to be special, each on its own merits.
As for buildings, I may have to totally scratch build. Being on a fixed income, kits are difficult to afford unless I can snag for a song and dance, or work with someone on split payments. I don't want a "me too" layout where everyone says "This is that, and that is this."
Just my thoughts at .03 over the rate of inflation.
||Posted - 07/03/2019 : 12:50:13 AM
I scratch build to avoid the similar plastic models that everyone else has on there layouts.
I scratch to challenge my skills.
I also will kitbash and add to a scratch built model.
Just to be different.
||Posted - 04/21/2018 : 12:01:53 PM
Because it's a mental challenge, it's a skills challenge, it's an artistic challenge, it's a lot of love / hate relationship with the idea. But most of all, it's fun!
||Posted - 04/20/2018 : 3:56:20 PM
I like to scratch build, as it is the best theropy for idle hands, but I injoy building models from kits also. So far i have built about 540 structures which include toonerville trollys, fr. and passanger cars industrial, farm, waterfront shanties etc.etc
||Posted - 04/02/2018 : 08:50:03 AM
I would have answered two equally: I want something that's not readily available, and I find the craftsman kits, while offering lots of detail and an easy build, are really quite spendy for my hobby budget.
For folks with limited time or patience, the kits provide good value for money, but I've got lots of time, patience and a laser cutter.
||Posted - 04/02/2018 : 08:29:03 AM
Originally posted by Railrunner130
I voted Other. I built Bar Mills Staton Marine inside out and put planking on it, so it looks nothing like the original.
OMG, that is an excellent idea, I love it. May have to look into that one day. Never thought of that scenario. Thank you.
||Posted - 10/20/2016 : 12:07:49 PM
Originally posted by Bruce Scott
Scratch reaches to the depth of your passion, your imagination, the piston and driver of your abilities behind implementation. It's the difference between a musician performing his or her own song versus that of another artist. It tests your mettle, ability to improvise, hurtling obstacles to reach simple goals that collectively can, on occasion, produce a masterpiece. And doing so, you often walk alone to the end of the journey, but are greeted by an audience of admiration. If you're really good, perhaps one of them will pick up the gauntlet and go with it, and a new artist is born.
Originally posted by Bbags
To Bruce Scott -- is this a modellers' forum or poets'? :) Beautifully said. JGDurand says it even more compactly :)
I don't have skills (nor eyes anymore) for locos and rolling stock, so the following concerns everything else, except most of my road/construction vehicles, boats and ships (at least the hull is from a ready-made thing).
The reasons in the Q's plus:
- I don't follow era/area/company protos, just develop my RRRailways empire :) as I go, often on the spur of the moment (additional constraint is the terrain and sq. ft. I got on the perimeter of 1 acre lot).
- Once I decide on "land-use plan" for a sub-area, I just build what's missing, with occasional ready-made stuff (asembled or not), but always bashed in case of buildings. My buildings, structures don't follow any protos, but some may resemble them, incl. work by other modellers. I do not draw plans, but build as I go, which I find more interesting and open to additional ideas as thy creep in.
- A piece of junk or such could instantly inspire a model, eg. the shape of plastic stool inspired a harbour management centre; related models and empire areas followed (2 lakes and connecting river w. a hydropower system on it, irrigation of the real garden from the lakes on the order of the Over-boss :))
||Posted - 04/12/2016 : 09:00:40 AM
I scratch build/modify things because I hate the factory look. If I can modify it I will.
||Posted - 03/29/2016 : 11:18:03 PM
Great discussion'..It's not even the excessive costs of the more affluent kits'.
To me, it just doesn't make sense to spend substantial funds for something that I can build my self. Build it exactly the way I want it. Not have to worry about missing parts,
and parts that don't fit correctly. Plus, I like using my imagination. And it's just plain fun to start with basic items and build a structure.
As Tony has stated, I too buy and build the occasional kit. I have also scratch built models, that after adding up the cost of special detail parts have actually cost more than the kit would have'...and then some.:-bigeyes]
||Posted - 03/29/2016 : 10:16:36 PM
I voted Other. The reason is because I prefer a combination of several of the selections. While I have built many kits, I've found some inexplicably expensive, although that's not completely the driving factor. I usually modify the kit in some way anyhow, just so it doesn't look like the box. For example, I built Bar Mills Staton Marine inside out and put planking on it, so it looks nothing like the original. I do occasionally scratchbuild because I have an idea and there's no kit of it.
||Posted - 03/29/2016 : 4:56:08 PM
Well, to update my earlier post, which I see was some 5 years ago!!!! (but only on the previous page), I still enjoy scratch building much more than a kit build, and again, partly I do it because there isn't a model out there that fits what I want to do, and to be unique, but even more importantly, the cost. As times change, so can incomes, and expenditures have to be kept in check. Apart from the supplies of wood, brass and styrene, it cost a lot less to make my own model.
Now, having said all that, these last 2 years, I have actually built 3 kits. Oh my gosh, after way too many years to count, I broke down and did something different. One was the Sierra West Service and Loco shops, another was Feller's Garage from Monster Modelworks, and a small one from Wild West Models. However, if you've seen my models, they were altered a lot, especially Feller's. I managed, through some friends on the web, obtain some photos of the garage so I can add the second lower story, and a lot of details that were not in the kit, also, I changed the shorter side wall of the Loco shops, scratchbuilt the crane, water tower and small shed, and altered the oil tank. With the WW model, I had 2 kits (I bought an extra by mistake at a convention), so I changed the look totally in the front and rear of one.
I can still say I have something unique, even though I used a kit as a beginning for what I wanted to do. And I think that is what I wanted to add to this discussion, the kit can still be used, but changing it all around will make it different than the other kits of the same, and that is also just as enjoyable as scratch building, and I can have the best of two worlds.
||Posted - 03/28/2016 : 9:43:18 PM
I too voted OTHER.
I like 2 and 4 plus.
I enjoy making things unique to my idea of what is correct for the era and location I model.
I set a date of June x 1942 and the location from Colorado to California.
a lot of the 'kits' are either early or way to late sooooo I either mod or scratch.
||Posted - 01/07/2016 : 10:48:54 PM
I haven't bought a kit in 40 years. I have kits from the 50's and before, they are enough. 95% of what I run today is what I have scratch-built, because I want something nobody else has, one-of-a-kind, detailed to the best of my ability. I have scratch built 7 steam locomotives, (with trophies for all) and extra-detailed others.
The ultimate reward for me, is to set the new car on the layout and know it is something unique that I have made. Ego-Trip?
||Posted - 11/07/2015 : 10:15:53 AM
Although I will use kits, when I can find one that works; or, kit-bash one to make it suffice, I have no problem building from scratch and do so anytime I feel the need to. I generally just go ahead and build without designing, as I feel confident enough that I can do so without making it look out of contest. Right now, I am building a snow shed that fits right up against a tunnel portal. No kits (that I know of) are available for a snow shed and even if they where, I think it unlikely that it would fit my location. Many years ago I purchased a supply of Evergreen plastic siding materials. I wanted to have a mine head-house where I needed one and because I had some corrugated sheeting available, i just went ahead and built one sort of designing as I went along, it turned out nicely. I think like the strongest contingency of voters in this poll, I find scratch building to be fun and a challenge and when completed I have something that brings more personal pride than a kit or kit-bash and "Heavens to Betsy " I have no need; or, want of ready built/Ready to Run on my layout!
||Posted - 02/13/2015 : 9:27:45 PM
Besides the joy of crafting something unique, another factor for me is that many of the kits available don't appeal to me much. Many kits make buildings that are too small to be plausible rail industries. Walthers plastic kits are large enough, but the tool-and-die work is pretty pathetic--way too coarse. Scratchbuilding lets me make a building as large as the space on my layout can accommodate, and I get to use scale lumber and the beautiful windows from Tichy or Grandt Line.